you have some kind of hatrid of the Tiida, perhaps it is envy. Yep nothing fancy but you cant argue that they aren't fit for purpose. Simple, reliable, roomy, not bad on gas and dirt cheap to buy. Tick all the boxes for some people but obviously not you. Just because they dont suit you doesnt mean they don't suit everyone.
The trans is like any other CVT trans. No inherent problems and last a long time if cared for properly (just like you keep going on about how the VWs need to be cared for properly etc).
Hell, if you are unfortunate enough to have a transmission failure then just go down to the nearest corner on the tourist routes and you will find a dozen of them piled up in a ditch
stevo2,
Aug 4, 5:40am
Two years ago my daughter bought a Tiida 1800cc with CVT Trans from an Auckland dealer for $8k. It had done 60,000km. She sold it privately a few weeks back done 110,000km for $5750. During her two year stint with the car, she had it serviced every 15,000km and she put a new set of tyres on it. Thats all. Nothing else whatsoever. Zilch Nada Nought. It may (or may not) crap out its CVT at 120,000km as Jazz suggests - who knows but 2 years (50,000km) of trouble free motoring for a depreciation cost of $2250 is pretty good in my book. Would I buy one? HELL NO! but they serve the purpose well for a good percentage of our population
henderson_guy,
Aug 4, 5:41am
[quote=thejazzpianoma
That's surely enough proof for a logical person?[/quote] A logical person certainly wouldn't buy a brand new Punto in the first place. Worth practically nothing in just 3 years. And you're proud of this? A logical person certainly wouldn't buy a second hand one either. There's only one reason the original buyer would drop their pants so much just to get rid of the car, and that's because it's a POS that nobody else wants.
kazbanz,
Aug 4, 5:52am
A VERY good friend of mine owned a 2005 1500cc benny basic Tiida for 5 years. as a town hack. He and his lady joined the flood of folks going to Auzzie. he drove the car from napier to me. It had 155000km on the clock I know he did not replace or repair the tranz. The same car is here in westyland being driven by a ports of Auckland employee-they drive west harbour-city 5 times a week and have owned it for another two years. --given how many cars that family has purchased I would know if it squatted.
thejazzpianoma,
Aug 4, 6:04am
@ Henderson guy because he has trouble working the quote system.
Did you ever see me recommend a brand new Punto (except perhaps when they were cheap on runout?) Buying a car with heavy initial depreciation once it's just gone over the depreciation is very smart, so yes, I am proud of that advice.
thejazzpianoma,
Aug 4, 6:05am
They will come, but you are about 3 years early. Best stock up on the Jack Daniels because it's going to be a bit of a wait.
gblack,
Aug 4, 6:08am
Tilda's are not a car I would be lining up to buy, but had one as a rental a couple of times, and seemed ok. Mind you also had a Punto one time from Juicy.
Think though Jucy have got rid of the Puntos now?
For something like a cheap first car for my kids would not rule out either, but think the people I know with a Tilda are the retired types doing 5k a year and probably just get bored of them before major mechanical failure.
Also quick look on TM shows some of those ex rentals Tilda's with 200,000+ on the clock. Hard to say what percentage make it without major repairs, but given you can pick up one for $5-$6k, with only about 50k on the ODO, most with get a decent run even if the transmission did fail as predicted.
snoopy221,
Aug 4, 6:10am
Good advice for once but ya see all these well sorta use by date thangs Are well really all the owners of vehicles with bio degradable wiring looms that have had the MAJOR bill-are probably stocking up on Jack for the Nek Minut -new loom AGAIN time LOL
mmmmmmmmmmm we wonder what a tiida tranny did to ya -LOL
meow_mix,
Aug 4, 6:31am
The Tiida originally replaced the Pulsar which we all know was a good vehicle, because Nissan felt they needed a more modern name for their small-midsizer. But now of course the Pulsar name is back and hopefully the reliability is too.
thejazzpianoma,
Aug 4, 6:38am
Unlikely, the rubbish build quality came with Renault partnership/ownership. It's not likely to change until someone else buys them out.
Shame because the 90's Nissans were fantastic in their day, especially the little Pulsars. Not only well built but quite up to date in terms of tech too. They had some personality and fun factor as well. Just a shame they are really too old now to be properly viable mainstream transport.
meow_mix,
Aug 4, 7:39am
So really it was the Renault-Nissan merger that caused the drop in quality of Nissan products, headed by Carlos Ghosn AKA "The Costcutter", he created some major restructuring at Nissan including canning the Skyline GTR which was the company's flagship and image-builder, and then later releasing the "Nissan GTR" which I never liked cos it wasn't a Skyline anymore.
mojo49,
Aug 4, 7:44am
I predict this thread will end badly, with not enough power to match the competition, lacking in cornering ability, and a failure to stop quickly enough. That will cause other threads to be created in a parallel universe.
henderson_guy,
Aug 4, 8:20am
Easily messed up by an errant finger when using a mobile device. Ohhhhh, I get it. You were just trying to be a toss-pot. Hilarious. Jog on, buddy.
ema1,
Aug 4, 10:28pm
Funny I just found 61 (That's about 5% of the 1356 Tiida's listed if I'm not mistaken. ) Tiida's with excess of 140,000km on them and a number of the 61 with almost 1/4 of a MILLION kms recorded . Then again their history could well include transmission repairs ( that interestingly means that other makes can have transmission repairs too. some do. a fair number of Euro's DO fall into that category that DO have various FAILURES of all kinds! Service upkeep or lack of it is a big factor here !) . be interesting just how many Tiida's actually have had much in the way of problems at all ? To say they don't last is yet another myth. or is that "fake news" ?
thejazzpianoma,
Aug 4, 10:39pm
As usual, there is no point to your post.
curlcrown,
Aug 4, 10:54pm
It would make sense if you are correct but there is one major flaw with your hypothesis, that is the "assumption" that the transmissions will fail around the 120/130km mark. What is that based on?
ema1,
Aug 4, 11:12pm
Oh yes there is actually you and only you can't help yourself but say that because it doesn't suit your agenda . all to funny and a totally hollow baseless retort! I go on facts and I see what I see. nearly 5% of the total listed for sale here as I said before have over 140,000km and some of those 61 cars mentioned have around 250,000kms recorded. FACT is you are are to too damn vein to notice that FACT. you think you know better . weird stuff honestly ! Are you actually that dumb to deny what is written here . IN BLACK AND WHITE ! Tiida's are built to do a job at a price and they seem to be doing that quite successfully, I among others can see that quite clearly. It obviously rankles against your narrow minded agenda to work that out, as you say time will tell but I very much doub't the "profit of doom" predictions that you are always bandying around. New Zealander's just don't go around jumping and following your warped theory's and narrow minded agenda of totally obtuse doctrine ! Thank god for that !
the-lada-dude,
Aug 4, 11:15pm
haha, good one . > I think both factions have valid points . I own a Nissan Presage, and it's a shit box, after having the Rover and I bet the Tilda is worse, . but you get pretty much what you pay for . right ? . but then I do think it is fair to remind / warn Joe driver that at 100 + km any car is a possible candidate for a mercy killing
thejazzpianoma,
Aug 4, 11:30pm
* First hand discussions with owners of failed transmissions. * Nissan themselves who have made a company wide loss due to issues with their CVT's and have publically shamed their subsidiary who makes them * The word of the specialst rebuilder who only rebuilds these transmissions and who has showed me the various failures, explained when they fail, how and why etc * The class action lawsuits over this issue. * The many many articles on this subject online
Many of the above give specific estimates of when these units fail and they are all stating around 120k- 130k anyone can do some research and they will see the same. It's a big issue that has been well investigated. The only confusing bit is there are a few older articles from Nissan where they initially tried to play down the issues as people not understanding the transmission. A quick look at the white hot angry owners comments on those articles puts that to bed quite quickly though.
ema1,
Aug 4, 11:31pm
Exactly. I might suggest AGAIN a Euro bias and hatred of anything non Euro that is totally alien to that Euro only hic agenda is the flawed basis . right there, only that will be denied. I suspect the almighty "crystal ball " gazing could be involved. could be causing cross eyed issues. weird stuff lacking credibility!
ema1,
Aug 4, 11:39pm
Explain the failures VAG have had with their junk DSG crap then . aw no they will be swept under the carpet neatly and tidily, plus why VAG and other Euro's don't want to know SFA after warranties expire. this will be interesting huh? All their failures and hiccups get neatly swept away hidden from view . by stealth in lots of cases by you and worse by the manufacturers involved. It's called being baffled by B/S and propaganda which you are a master at . it's so damn obvious . seems it's only you who is blind to this glaring FACT. All to funny really. All the anti anything non Euro sure as hell won't stop the proliferation of non Euro's thank goodness . you might as well give up now ! Your lack of credibility will ensure that proliferation will only expand way into the future and I welcome that with enthusiasm. yay. Simple FACT . all manufacturers have some issues . Euro's tend have more than their fair share. hard to deny.
snoopy221,
Aug 4, 11:55pm
Here we go does this mean some Actual Facts are coming?
* The word of the specialst rebuilder who only rebuilds these transmissions and who has showed me the various failures, explained when they fail, how and why etc
ema1,
Aug 5, 12:04am
I am only answering to O.P. questions or directed questions re credible owner/driver motor trade experience from now on, any crap from jazz will be like water off a ducks back and from now on I will be ignoring him completely. I have far better things to do. I'll just leave his drivel and epic length trying to convince utterances for his cronies and poor uninformed suckers to digest . god help all folks in that category to which I suggest get proper informed credible advise !
ema1,
Aug 5, 12:05am
Tishy Mouse stuff . mole hills that grow into mountains. out of proportion category definitely!
curlcrown,
Aug 5, 12:07am
Why is it that every mechanical warranty company that I can think of charges more for a warranty on a Fiat or a Volkswagen of any type than it would for a Nissan Tiida. I admit I only have 20 years experience in the industry and don't claim to be an expert.
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