The 5.6T average load is more about the use case of the textile rental service provider that owns it. Guess it needs to run its route every day even if fairly empty.
The actual truck can comfortable move 18 net tonnes through it's intercity route according to the below article:
while they look to open a third coal fired burner at huntly because we run out of water in the dams, so no to EV, we need the power for better things than importing coal to make labour look good, how f ked up is all this. we need to mine coal, look for oil and gas and stop the dreaming and brainwashing. sick of all the bullshit about all this while we won't be able to pay our mortgages, feed our kids and get ahead because some selfish boffin wants endless change to stop something that can't be stopped, its just how the planet works, get over yourselfs.
tweake,
Feb 25, 8:14am
hang on a sec, how do you move an 18 ton load when its an 18 ton GVM truck? sounds like they are leaving something out of the story.
the other thing is the hour long recharge at the depots on the way. thats ok for a fixed route but thats is something thats not going into happen with normal usage. a truck dropping a load off for us at work is not going to sit there for a hour recharging and i expect the boss would be billing the truck owner for that power, assuming we even had a station he could use. a tradie is not going to go to the building supply and sit there charging so he can make the trip back. let alone sit there for an hour.
the simple physics, batteries big enough to supply enough energy for decent trips and loads are simply to big and heavy.
the other issues is simply drag. if you hit a head wind, or have a poor aerodynamic load that causes your energy consumption to double or triple (easy done) then your probably going to be stuck on the side of the road.
As I said a few posts back, EV trucks are at the stage of cherry picking suitable use cases, and the headline of this thread is referencing light vehicles only.
tweake,
Feb 25, 8:56am
its a Hino GH 1828, which is 18 ton gvm. chassis weight is 5.5ton. even with it modified to increase gvm to 22.5 ton, its max payload is 17 ton (possibly less due to the mods) and thats without the huge big heavy battery. something does not add up.
this is the trouble with these sorts of things. the people advocating them often do not tell the truth.
The Climate change commissions is allowing submissions for the 'Climate Action for Aotearoa' (advice report) until the end of March.
Page 57/ 58 are the crystal ball gazing writings/ graph for transport wrt to light vehicles. Certainly does not appear to allow for any technological breakthroughs that might occur with liquid fuel vehicles over the next decade.
Are Electric Trains going to replace Diesels on freight and passenger services ?
gazzat22,
Feb 26, 6:08am
And those pushing the New Tech tend to gloss over the minuses and pitfalls.
gazzat22,
Feb 26, 6:10am
Be handy AKL-WLG if you want to spend a night in Taupo. without the trailer!
tweake,
Feb 26, 6:20am
like the previous articles, volvo doesn't mention how much load they take and how far they can go with it. when they avoid it like that, it means its crap.
tweake,
Feb 26, 6:25am
they have to drive to the site. many around here work 100km+ away from home. also they need to haul around a lot of tools, plus any materials that are not delivered to site. then if they run out of something and have to go get some more.
also there is a lot of trades which visit multiple job sites per day.
poppy62,
Feb 26, 6:55am
Perhaps try reading more of the article, as it specifies the following on the FL and FE models both currently on the road:
Volvo FL Electric
A two-axle truck with a gross vehicle weight up to 16 tonnes and an excellent working environment for the driver. Volvo Trucks can deliver complete vehicles for urban transport like deliveries. Two different wheelbases and battery capacity for an operating range up to 300 km are available. And:
Volvo FE Electric
A three-axle truck with a gross vehicle weight up to 27 tonnes and a comfortable working environment for the driver. Volvo Trucks can deliver complete vehicles for demanding types of urban transport like waste collection, light construction transports and deliveries. The operating range is up to 200 km.
tweake,
Feb 26, 7:22am
that mentions the GROSS vehicle weight, not how much load weight it can take. operating range is UP TO 200km/300km which means when its empty. nothing in the article or spec sheet says how much load it can take and how far it can go with that load.
tweake,
Feb 26, 7:33am
lets say for argument sake that this trucks load 5.6 ton, as its the only reasonable weight mentioned. you have a 22 ton truck only moving 5.6ton and i assume no chance of adding a trailer.
one thing to consider, and this gets important for light vehicles as well, is the RUC. that truck is paying 22ton worth of RUC for a smaller than normal load. with light vehicles, especially if you have to up a few sizes, you would be paying say 6 ton worth of RUC instead of 3 ton. ie double the RUC for the same load.
the other question is if everyone starts driving all these heavy EV's, whats the road maintenance going to be like?
s_nz,
Feb 26, 8:42am
It appears to have an extra axle compared to the standard GH 1828, so Assumed that got a GVM upgrade with that.
But you are correct 18T net load and 22.5T GVM doesn't leave enough for the tare weight. So either one of the numbers is wrong or they have been overloading it (very naughty if this is the case).
tweake,
Feb 26, 8:58am
yeah a tad odd they did a 2nd axle instead of buying the twin rear axle model. miscalculated the battery weight required, or just got a good deal on the lighter model.
i'm taking a guess what they meant was the truck carts 18 ton overall in its days run. 4 runs at 4.5 ton each (average). which would fit with the 5.6 ton figure they mention.
serf407,
Feb 26, 11:26am
Long range version of the Tesla semi is supposed to do 805 kilometres loaded.
An coffee break/ charge up in Taupo could ease the range anxiety approaching Wellington on colder nights for a haul.
I have seen those videos' before so no news there.
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