No, the load on the clutch is proportional to the resistance the front gearbox shaft has to turning.
If we jack the car up, the clutch won't slip.
Using a lower gear does have an effect on how much horsepower the clutch can handle before it slips.
mechnificent,
Jan 15, 7:17pm
Got an opinion!
ozz1,
Jan 15, 7:35pm
hope the clutch is ok!
jasongroves,
Jan 15, 7:35pm
WTF! LOL!
skin1235,
Jan 15, 8:17pm
I hope like hell you are NOT a mechanic
although with your complete flip flop in the last sentence you admit that what I was saying in the first post is completely right
if you are a mechanic
go back to basics,
before you came alone and decided that a clutch is not designed to slip they were always called slipping clutches, this differentiated them from dog clutches or spline collar couplings, even today, after the bastardisation of the language you think you know, clutch plates are still technically termed slipping clutches, and for good reason they are the 'fuse' in any powertrain, you should see the size and methods of operation in some of the seagoing clutches deployed on just about every ship on the oceans from the tapered cone metal clutches of the earliest cars to the multiplate monsters behind 650hp tractors, they are power couplers plain and simple, they utilise their ability to slip under loads to achieve what they do, it is what they are designed to do, biker got what I was saying back in my first post, since then you have displayed a complete lack of logic, intelligence and knowledge will you ever stop
skin1235,
Jan 15, 8:26pm
and ignore my post at #62, not logical at all
until he comes back and tells us he can only find 1 st and 2nd and they are now on the gate not gear movement, and what he calls a slipping clutch is actually a non engagement of the gears not that I suspect for a moment he'll even know what those two mean
it would be logical to assume that if on the gate he'd get 3rd and 4th but he does have 'one linkage is tight, the other is slack' so god knows whats going on under there
skin1235,
Jan 15, 8:41pm
his world would be full of technobabble then! cos he sure displays a huge lack of knowledge across a wide range of subjects!
advise I should possible take myself sometimes but better to shut up and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it beyond all doubt
mechnificent,
Jan 15, 9:06pm
Ha,you two are a joke.
I'll leave you both to it becaue your opinions don't matter.
skin1235,
Jan 15, 11:55pm
you should change your favourite quote to " be every worried, I'm a trained professional" lol
naturally my poor opinion of your knowledge won't matter to you but are you sure it won't matter to others though
winpp,
Jan 16, 12:55am
And now the muck gets raked. Carry on. Tee hee.
mechnificent,
Jan 16, 1:30am
No Skin, it won't matter to anybody that counts.
skin1235,
Jan 16, 1:34am
yep it doesn't matter to anybody that counts
and you reply, lol
mechnificent,
Jan 16, 1:38am
You asked, I replied.
skin1235,
Jan 16, 1:40am
nah
it mattered
to you
lol
mechnificent,
Jan 16, 1:58am
Oh, and now you know my mind better than I do myself.
You and Biker are a good pair.
bigfatmat1,
Jan 16, 2:04am
what the face
skin1235,
Jan 16, 2:13am
hee hee, and still you come back
defending the un-defendable
can you not see a laugh nothing sinister, nothing nasty intended cheers magnificent
I've read a few of your posts over the times and mostly they have been excellent we are human and allowed to make a minor error occassionally
candy1213,
Jan 16, 4:44am
did you check the heights of the presure plates! as if it is taller then this would bring the clutch fork hardon to thebellhousing and may not be letting the clamp on the clutch plate, or a bent clutch fork! or the clutch slave pipe ,been crushed and fluid cant come back!
mechnificent,
Jan 16, 3:08pm
I don't know about Budgel, but SR2, Angel and I have all had years of experiance. We all agree that that statement is wrong. It's wrong in practice and it's wrong in theory.
It doesn't surprise me that you both(Biker and yourself), reckon you know best. That's just how you both are.
Skin, I see a lot of posts in here of yours too, and more often than not you jump too rediculous conclusions. I see for instance, they in the case of the V8 motor that developed a problem on the dyno that your guess was that it was "one of those left-over nuts or bolts" that had got down the inlet manifold and jammed a valve. An inlet valve because a nut couldn't get to an exhaust valve.
Really! That isn't the sort of though that would occur to any competent mechanic. only a duffus that does that sort of thing would come to a conclusion like that. Seriously Skin, you need to get some training , some experiance and learn the theory before you start giving out advice in here or anywhere else.
The fact that Biker agrees with you, should be cause for concern to you Skin, not reassurance.
winpp,
Jan 16, 3:13pm
Fight ya buggers, fight.
mechnificent,
Jan 16, 3:19pm
What's the matter Winpp, you feeling left out!
bbbottle,
Jan 16, 3:33pm
ok ive been riding my motorbike to forget all bout my little problem[lol] but it seems to have caused a stirr thats for sure , can i spell . no! can i use a computer properly . no . its not easy to type what you really need to say but i have tried . so i will attack the problem with the clutch today and see what happens . if i have to get the grinder out and shorten the main pin on slave cyld then yeehaa who doesn't luv cutting up stuff good or bad! worst case i just keep riding my motorbike in this heat i have no problem with this at all .cheers to all
skin1235,
Jan 16, 4:00pm
at the time we did not know the engine had been rebuilt by any 'competent' mechanic, and as a mechanic I'd be pushed to number the times backyard V8 jobs came to the workshop to have washers and nuts removed from beside the valve stems if you know anything about them you have to admit that the likelihood of a nut or washer remaining in an exhaust port is pure fantasy - but according to you the fact I said inlet port is beyond credibility
apart from all that the original comment was a just a flip off to see who would bite you did and kept biting
also as you are including others in your wee club ask them a simple question if a clutch slips at 90kw does it matter which gear it is in when that 90 kw is applied
and the only answer is 'no, if 90 kw is applied and that is all that that clutch can handle it will slip at 90kw
and that is what I was saying, you were the one who got all bitter about driving practices and gearbox states, you couldn't even counter with the common knowledge that to measure 90kw you have to have at least 90kw of resistance, and if a lower gear is selected it is very hard to achieve 90kw of resistance so who is it that needs retraining, the one who knows what he's talking about or the one who doesn't even realise that hp/kw transfer is a reactive measure - and has to have something to react against your observation that they show slip more in the higher gears was even noted in the original post, and explained nah you set out to bitchslap and in your haste failed to even note what was being said
bbbottle,
Jan 16, 4:09pm
ok after a quick tinkle i have found that if i release one bolt that holds slave cyld to gear box if frees up tension on the fork and clutch is near the floor in all gears therefore to much pressure was on it. so chopping it down is theway to go but. iam just going to buy a new one with less length in the shaft as they are only like $30 and keep my old one, so as time goes on i may need to put the old one back incheerz
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