requirements are: 2004 or newer 4wd or rwd manual or tiptronic under $15k preferably no bigger engine than 3.5L used for equal parts open road/around town driving doesn't need to tow anything not fussed whether it is jap/euro/american etc
intrade,
Oct 14, 10:52pm
what milage are you intending to do in a week month ?
-bonnieparker-,
Oct 14, 11:00pm
between 1000-2500kms a month
-bonnieparker-,
Oct 14, 11:02pm
this would be my first choice at this stage, although my dad (mechanic) has vowed he won't do any work on it if I buy an Audi.
motorboy2011,
Oct 14, 11:14pm
350rx four m35 Stagea. Tiptronic, 4wd, 3.5l, 206kw. $8k-$14k.
vtecintegra,
Oct 14, 11:16pm
M35 Stagea - go for the 3.5, comes in AWD and RWD
Downside is it's quite a big car around town
intrade,
Oct 14, 11:19pm
i dont want to be rude but i hope your dad has taken advanced engine managmant electronics classes otherwise your better sticking to older toyotas. some of the toyota are old technology till mid 2000. i was going to post a thread about this problem of mechanics not up to speed as there is a good true article , but then i disided the other day not to post it maybe i should . but then there be morons again posting comments like bull$hit and stuff when infact its 100% correct and when you read the article anyone with a brain will see it .
bigfatmat1,
Oct 14, 11:30pm
Subaru Legacy. Subaru outback. Lots of different engines to choose from depending on power wanted. The 2007 gtb legacy is a nice car to drive. 4wd 265hp and quite economical considering it's a turbo boxer. You can pick one up for under 15k
mopsy3,
Oct 15, 12:09am
Your Dad is a good man.
daryl14,
Oct 15, 12:31am
And nor should you let him. There is a very good independant mechanic in Frankton for euros.
tamarillo,
Oct 15, 1:11am
Subaru 4 cylinder of that era only had a 4 speed auto box so you need the six. BMW 320 is hugely popular in Europe for good reason. 5 series is often same money. VW Passat can be had in 4wd. Volvo XC70 if you like really big boot, not very good on gas though. Merc c class with wide range of engines. Commodore just fits criteria and shouldn't be dismissed for simplicity.
vtecintegra,
Oct 15, 4:35am
Forth and firth gen turbo Legacy is a 5 speed - should be easily in budget
bigfatmat1,
Oct 15, 5:43am
as above 5spd nz new gtb as they are full spec.
geedubu,
Oct 15, 5:45am
Toyota harrier
berg,
Oct 15, 5:50am
Being that I thrash the living bejesus out of a Commodore at work and it seems to be pretty bulletproof, I'd suggest one. Sure, not the most safisticated thing in the world but for a good all rounder it is hard to beat
matt5209,
Oct 15, 6:00am
Out of interest why do you need rwd or 4wd if you aren't towing? Fwd going to be a lot better on gas.
-bonnieparker-,
Oct 15, 6:06am
Just because I like driving them more, I drive on sharply windy open roads (ie to Whitianga, Coromandel, New Plymouth) a lot, so I want a car I really enjoy driving.
-bonnieparker-,
Oct 15, 6:06am
thanks for all the ideas thus far, I'm checking them all out
_peas,
Oct 15, 6:12am
3.0R Legacy. 250HP and smooth as. Engines have a very solid reputation and 5sp auto/tiptronic. Mine averages 8.5km/L round town and open road is approx 13km/L. Very comfortable, great open road with cruise control too (esp on long weekend when the speed tolerance is reduced!) I haven't found anything yet that I don't like about it. The McIntosh stereo is fantastic if you manage to get one with this option.
bumfacingdown,
Feb 8, 9:30am
Big enough that if load space is needed they are better than the Holden/Ford counter models
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