Honda automatic

intrade, Jan 3, 2:10pm
how do you mesure automatic trans fluid on a honda odissey 96 i think it is , normally i ask my guy i trust advanced automatic whangarei questions i dont know for sure as i need to have the correct answer.
it has a small dipstick with XXX on the stick
i assume that is the level max min.
intrade, Jan 3, 2:16pm
now before you ask why do i not know this well its a honda automatic.
i know you have to use only oem honda fluid.
plus the dipstick dont has hot and cold like dextron boxes have on them.
plus i only need to know this for diagnosis and advanced automatic seem to still be off work.

Now the internet is full of crap like one guy said you have the engine running to mesure then he shows how he mesures it with engine off .
then another moron like eric the car guy a so called honda specialist talks about exchange 3 quarts fluid and no need to change filters lol.
its mindblowing the crap sources you come across on the internet.
its why i only want somone to reply if they know and can explain why you do it this way ." like because oem honda instruction say so" that would be avalid reason why.
intrade, Jan 3, 2:21pm
just looked on the calendar its 3 kings day so still a holliday why advanced be closed i guess. But yea if hamhonda or somone knows the true howto please post, i would say i wont be the only one whom dont knows how correctly to check fluid.
differentthings, Jan 3, 2:29pm
Check the oil level within 5 seconds of turning the engine off. No filter to replace as it's the last thing you take out when you strip down the trans.
intrade, Jan 3, 2:34pm
hot or cold ? don matter?
differentthings, Jan 3, 2:56pm
Can't recall what the Honda dipstick says on it. If there are not cold or hot levels on it then I think the XXXX on it is the fluid level difference between cold on hot, but can't remember. I would check it when it"s hot anyway.
audi_s_ate, Jan 3, 3:28pm
Check when engine is hot and not running. They normally take about 3L or slightly less. Total fluid is approx 6L and the standard procedure is 3x3L - one at a time running through all gears then drain and start again. Filters are inside the trans and don't get changed in a flush as you have to remove the trans.
a.woodrow, Jan 3, 3:57pm
Seriously intrade, when you are calling people morons you need to take a look in the mirror first. Service is a drain and refill, you don't replace a filter. D & R is 3 Litres.

FYI, your 'moron' eric the car guy is right. You don't know what you don't know.
intrade, Jan 3, 4:12pm
ok so to mesure the fluid i have to drain it first lol.
the problem is what is right whom do you trust i sure dont trust eric the car guy some stuff he does ok some dangerously wrong like fitting a aftermarket valve on his ac system , its ok for a mupped show but taking professional advice from that channel is definetly what i would not do, probably have to ring advanced automatic tomorrow as i need to know it 100% right and no i wont do any work on automatics i let professionals do that like advanced automatic. for service information i get instructions from them and if i cant do it i dont even start a job.
now to give eric the car guy some credit he dont hides his mistakes he makes so thumbs up he is at least honest wen he cant even rebuild a power steering pump and has to fit a secoundhand pump because he dont knows what he done wrong that it did not work.
give him credit for not faking things like scotty kilmar whom has a magig wand to fix cars.
intrade, Jan 3, 4:28pm
here is what i had pulled dipstick /XXXX/ fluid over full cold
car has salt and sand under bonnet got stuck the 19 year old girl tells me i say yea the salt wont help things for sure .
Now starting the car i mesure it running . No fluid nada on the stick now.
So what now i dont want her to drive 25km with not enough fluid in the trans . So need to know 100% how you exactly mesure the fluid before i take this any further , honda need honda fluid nothing else , i just whatched the training guy sayid your a test pilot if you use compatible fluids so you use oem honda fluid only on honda. that comes from professional seminar i posted the link i think and i know that is correct its not dextron and its not compatible fluid . it must meet and or exeed honda specs .
"compatible means dont blame us if it blows up" thats what this means because it dont meets or exeeds the specs.
So how do you now mesure it drain 3 quarts and refill again , yea might be 1 way huh lol
a.woodrow, Jan 3, 4:34pm
You check it the same way you check most engine oil levels. Run it up so it's warm, turn engine off and check dipstick. If this makes sense, draining always takes it to the same level, so say it's down 500ml. draining it will only take out 2.5L instead of 3L if it was full to start with. so then you can pour your 3L of trans fluid and it will be at the full mark.
intrade, Jan 3, 4:37pm
also i dont want to run it hot first to find out its got way to little fluid.
Logically.
cold engine off it reads just about overfull. if somone can pull the stick on his odyssey "1996 trans" and look where his level is,"COLD" if you have no drive problems that is, for compairing if it might be ok to run longer.
intrade, Jan 3, 5:02pm
ok here is the case in full
car sometimes dont not shift propperly in 3th gear or out of 3th gear .
Meachaic told here when she had it checked out that this is normal for old cars lol. The problem gets progressivly worse the longer she drives ,
i told her the mechanic has no clue about it and made up some rubbish that it is normal on old cars.
this problem was present at purchase already fluid dont looks burned or smells burned so thats a good sign in my book
tmenz, Jan 3, 5:12pm
My 1999 Honda manual is quite clear.
Transmission fluid level must be checked with car on level ground and engine/transmission at normal operating temperature (i.e. hot).
The engine should be switched off and the fluid level checked within 1 minute of stopping. It should be within the marked area of the dipstick.

To answer your question - the level on my dipstick when cold and at rest before running the engine is slightly above the MAX level of the markings.
intrade, Jan 3, 5:50pm
tmenz 104 can you go mesure what it reads cold when you have it running almost no oil shows on stick? cold?
slightly above the MAX level of the markings that matches what it has so probably ok to run it warm then.
a.woodrow, Jan 3, 8:18pm
Transmission has clutch packs. Maybe they are slipping? Does it flare when it changes? Sadly it's probably on its last legs
intrade, Jan 4, 8:17pm
dont know i looked for the 3pin honda obd1 connector on that odissey, where in the hell is the plug?
intrade, Jan 4, 11:38pm
some info on net tells dlc 3 pin under passanger glove box?
hamhonda yo should know?
toyota_one, Jan 4, 11:40pm
Under the dash, passenger side.
intrade, Jan 6, 3:25pm
ok will see if i find it if i see the car again. a update i can add to this
you know the mechanic whom said the problems are normal of old age. the post #13 mechanic is from twizel. So be awear there is f. n morons there also , i said it was a world wide phenomenon often enough now i think.
mischieftam, Mar 16, 8:34pm
be careful who you call "Morons". many times the "moron" is the owner who has either :
1: been too busy talking to actually listen to what the technician has said to him.
2: totally ignored what the technician has said and come up with their own "diagnosis" and attributed it to the technician.
3: selective hearing has only heard the one part of the conversation that they want to hear and centered on that.
but yes there is the occasional "swapatron" in all trades, not just automotive.