I organised my mum's Volkswagen to have this job done.
Just wondering, for those keen DIY'ers if one went for a higher quality or a OEM "cambelt kit". How much do they cost? Ie a Toyota Camry cambelt kit with the bearings and the waterpump or in my mum's case the VW.
Not that I am looking at doing this myself. Are cambelt jobs something that falls outside of many DIY'ers skill set?
Cheers :)
martin11,
Jul 4, 10:05am
What year VW ?
rayonline_tm,
Jul 4, 10:09am
Say a 2004 VW Bora / Jetta.
Nothing specific just a general ballpark figure or a range figure what the average person may encounter. Ie someone that is a keen DIY and experienced and just walks up to the parts counter at the dealership.
supernova2,
Jul 4, 10:14am
Diesel? Aftermarket belt kit looks to be about $770. No idea on genuine.
rayonline_tm,
Jul 4, 10:17am
Just normal petrol. I was thinking maybe $400? $700? Oh really. A few years back I emailed the dealership for a cambelt servicing (done by them) and they said $1,000-1,200 without the water pump. Mum's car is being done by a Euro specialist, not dealer.
Just want to find out how much are the genuine parts cost for the average Joe.
sw20,
Jul 4, 10:31am
Genuine Toyota cam belt parts will be under $400. Cambelt, waterpump, tensioner, thermostat + gasket, two idler bearings.
martin11,
Jul 4, 10:41am
Lot of vw kits on Trademe parts
jmma,
Jul 4, 11:07am
They will be cheap as chips, because they are the most popular car in the world. So I have been told :oP
Why would you bother as can get it for that sort of price right here in NZ probably same day as well.? eta With the advantage that you can take it back when it turns out to be the wrong kit. Also how many special tools do you need for that particular job? I see several firm listing locking kits at around a grand.
intrade,
Jul 4, 11:50am
i just had a client call for a cambelt job you need cambelt kit crank and cam seals waterpump and rocker cover gasket. plus 3 times 1.5 liter g12 or g13+ coolant concentrate and demineralised puredew water. Adds up quit quickly if you do it right.
rayonline_tm,
Jul 4, 11:50am
Thanks for that Wellington Gazley (dealer) have them for $325 incl GST with the water pump. Just a curious post that is all. With coolant $400'ish for parts. $600 of 4hr labour?
thejazzpianoma,
Jul 4, 2:02pm
Just a couple of tips, I try to avoid INA bearings as have had some serious issues with them. I also mostly avoid Gates kits now as I am starting to see Chinese bearings shipped with them.
Also, from memory I usually only pay about $250 delivered for a kit for one of those including waterpump. Have a look on ebay.
thejazzpianoma,
Jul 4, 2:05pm
Bang on! Even more apparent when it comes to more obscure parts that often are not even available for JDM cars.
Case in point, I bought a brand new throttle body for one a little while back which has now been on for 60'000 trouble free km. That complete, brand new, ready to bolt on throttle body cost me just $58 delivered.
rayonline_tm,
Jul 4, 4:08pm
In NZ the parts might cost $450 with the coolant, perhaps $500 depending how much I need. I rang the dealer. How does the $500 labour get calculated then, 2 workers? I would think the average car there is 4hr of labour.
supernova2,
Jul 4, 4:54pm
$500 for 4 hours at a franchise dealer sounds about right - almost cheap. Dealer workshops carry huge overhead costs and someone has to pay for all that. Back in the 80/90's a cambelt was a 30 minute job. Not any more as often there are lots of other bits that have to come off to actually get to the belt. If it's a Honda you might need 4 hours just to get the crank pulley bolt undone if you are unlucky!
thejazzpianoma,
Jul 4, 5:00pm
Not a lot of point in buying the timing belt kit in NZ in my opinion. So long as you have checked the kit fits your engine code. I think only once have I orderd a wrong kit, was my fault for being in a rush and it was able to be sold here for a profit!
G13 might be worth buying here though.
thejazzpianoma,
Jul 4, 5:03pm
Have you tried the special ultra thick no flext sockets you can get specifically for Honda's? Totally worth the money, one of those with my big Milwauke M18 fuel rattle gun and they are toast! That said, it's Honda so you probably see heaps more than I do.
Edit, just looked it up for anyone who wants one. It's a LISLE 77080
Lisle make some awsome stuff, love my seal puller from them and stretch belt on/off tools. Very good pricing too.
rayonline_tm,
Jul 4, 5:08pm
Oh the dealer is actually not $500 it's $800. $500 is a place that specialise in euro cars. A few years back the dealer said $1000 without water pump.
rayonline_tm,
Jul 4, 5:09pm
I don't have the skills to do the timing belt nor the tools.
thejazzpianoma,
Jul 4, 5:13pm
I got confused by your first post. They are a pretty easy one to do if you change your mind. Can probably find both a video and step by step guide. What you save would easily cover the tools and some if you were keen. Then you are all set for the next one. Depends on whether you like that sort of thing or not. Happy to help point you in the right direction if you have a change of heart. Wouldn't be suggesting this for some other cars though as a first time effort.
Good on you for investigating the costs etc anyway.
marte,
Jul 4, 6:09pm
$700+ for a V6 APS Audi engine cambelt kit. + the water pump $120, + G13 coolant & dH2O, + serpentine belt & tensionor. Might as well do Oil/Filter ($100) & same for the gearbox ($200) Air filter & Cabin filter ($100).
Anybody got cheaper pricing? Rock auto seem to do a good kit inc seals for NZ$400
supernova2,
Jul 4, 6:43pm
Yep have seen those heavy sockets. I agree Lisle do make some good stuff and it can be well priced if you hunt about. I was tempted to buy a m18 a couple of days ago but convinced myself I didn't really need it. The Honda I struck nothing I had, or could borrow, would shift it. That included a homemade flogging spanner/socket and a 20lb hammer. Owner took it to Honda who spent 2 hours on it and got it undone. Usual story of who had been there before I think.
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