07 Nissan dualis

The reasonably good quality cars of the last 10 years tend to have an official design life of approx 250'000km. This is probably a reasonable figure for a transmission that has been looked after.

Interestingly your Rover 75 Transmission is another Jatco product like the one being discussed here.

Now to be fair. I consider being looked after to be serviced at an appropriate interval even if the transmission is marked "sealed for life". What is appropriate depends on the type of use. So that might be anywhere from 5 years to 3 months (if heavy towing). Heat degrades the fluid, the more towing and city work you do the hotter that fluid gets so the sooner you need to change the fluid. This is why upgraded transmission coolers are popular with people who tow.

For what its worth I spoke to a mechanic (16yrs qualified) friend last night ,his opinion was much the same, dont touch one with CVT transmission. .He also said after 120,000 kms or thereabouts you are on borrowed time ,expect trouble .

Pence worth. I hear that a dealer selling them doesn't get returns. But that doesn't mean they don't fail, just that they've failed a year or more on and folk know it's too far down the line. I don't take something back when it's way past warranty.
Rental companies do seem to enjoy them so they can all be bad, but they do buy them very cheap so there expectation of milage is low and ability to soak up occasional failure is high. Plus I expect they service them well which many private owners don't, folk think if car is serviced gearbox is.
Surely it's fair to say they are less reliable boxes than other ones around and should at least be treated with caution. Bit like the shitty jap box that's laid up my Volvo tank.

That's exactly it. It's also what my milage numbers above for the ones for sale on here show. The next few years are going to be very interesting as the milage on the tens of thousands of these things imported with low km creeps up. Although I suspect we are already seeing them being scrapped rather than being worthy of a transmission replacement in many instances.

Which is exactly where my Volvo is at. Offered $500 as trade in, repair is a bit under $3000, now kept as spare and will donate to son when he's 16 to learn in till box fails totally.
Maybe the cost of reconditioned cvt. boxes will reduce as numbers needed rise and it will become economical to fix. Optimist.

As with all CVT servicing is very important at 50K and every 30K after that. With the Dualis Price wise in a private sale you can get a good low km one (under 90K) for under $8500 which is much cheaper than the other similar SUV type cars. If you’re paying over $10k I’d prefer to get a CRV though- much nicer ride

Im in the exact same situation. ZERO claims for transmission issues in any of the Tiida,wingroad or Dualis.
I have had a golf squat in a MAJOR way-apparently the issue is TOTALLY unfixable and replacement is only a temporary measure.
ive had a 55000km Grand Punto go bye byes which was a $2800 repair.
I guess ive just been "lucky"

If the Volvo hasn't been hard shifting long enough to do physical damage to the transmission often they can be revived with a valve body replacement which is done with the transmission in the car.
Have you looked in to this as a possibility? I haven't priced a rebuilt valve body for one of those in a while but would be worth a look. Also, if it's poops and giggles stage you could buy the rebuild kit (Usually only $100 or so) and have fun fitting it with your Son.

These threads are fascinating examples of cognitive dissonance.

I am quite convinced that tgray believes he is a good person who has his customers interests at heart (as opposed to having sociopathic tendencies) Kaz is possibly the same.

So in order to maintain their beliefs, they can't knowingly sell vehicles which they know to be unreliable in the long term without creating cognitive dissonance.

This is pretty standard stuff, but what I find so fascinating is how far they go to maintain their current view point. tgray is ignoring the findings of the manufacturer as well as a specialist cvt repairer and numerous others on here along with class action suits etc. Kaz is trying his usual attempts at character assassination, likely in an attempt to justify to himself that anything I say is likely untrue.

It's been explained to them both quite clearly how dealers are unlikely to get many returns due to the km on the vehicles when sold. This is logical and easy to follow.

The whole situation is very fascinating.

Not a nice position to be in though. On one hand you have a profitable and easy product to sell, on the other your integrity. It's a lot to give up to change your mind on something so important, not only do you have to find a replacement vehicle to sell in future, but you have the associated guilt of having sold so many in past.

It will be interesting to see how they respond to this post if at all. It's highly unlikely they will reflect on the situation and make the difficult decision that the evidence is pointing overwhelmingly to them being a very short life transmission.

So what other options are there?

Character assassination?
Trying to find others who agree with them and find justification in the numbers?
Pretending that anything at all which might suggest I am wrong, no matter how weak the argument trumps all the other evidence?
Or just abandoning the thread?

It's a tricky one. It's fascinating too that making a wise buying decision is every bit as much about the psychology as it is about the nuts and bolts of the vehicle.

With all respect, cant we just post our opinions to the OP without all this psychological BS of why I am wrong and you are right?
My opinion is based on selling many of them with K's varying from 60 - 160k over 15 years. If the trans were failing you can be sure my customers would be contacting me to replace them under the CGA. Kaz sells many also and we have never had a problem. You seem to have a problem that we haven't had problems.
I cannot accept they are a short life transmission based on my experience, others experiences and the rental companies I sell to. What I would say, is I trust their transmissions over any Euro trans any day.
Now let's just leave it at that can we? We should have stopped at #10.
You last post is quite frankly, over the top.
It's OK for others to have an opinion you don't agree with!
Again, I have to say I am done with this thread. Go ahead Jazz, you always get the last word.

Boy he must have a pile of hats with holes in em.
We all know he has, credibility has gone poof out the holes all to often as copious volumes of Google based hot air, and the pervasive arrogance astounds the vast majority on here.
Pity Google isn't getting a kick back for all the pervading drivel, if Google did actually charge for such knowledge, the rhetoric would with out a doub't fizzle away to near zilch.
I personally know who I would listen too for any form of credence and that certainly isn't a particular "one eyed" Euro biased type with narrow dismissive "despotic" thoughts/ideas etc!. Period.