The Most Unreliable Car?

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_peas, Mar 11, 5:29pm
I would put money on it that Cavaliers in working condition would manage that fairly easily. doesn't make them good though.

tigra, Mar 11, 5:55pm
Well I got really great mileage out of the 2 Vivas and 1 Chevette I owned. Each one gave me good service over 2-3 years. Only real complaint with the Chevette which was prone to breaking the Indicator arm which cost $250 for a new one. This is20 years ago when $250 was quite a lot!

flockton55, Mar 11, 7:43pm
(Re Jaguar XJ-S V12 )I love comments like this.It helps keep the price down for those of us who know how to work on them.I've had my 1984 XJ12 for 18 years now, and would be quite happy with an XJ-S too. Main problem was with ignorant people who couldn't be bothered to read a workshop manual, so tried to fix everything with a crescent and a piece of string.

falcon-hell, Mar 11, 7:47pm
we had a XD Falcon,same thing with the door handles, they were a bloody curse.

movnon, Mar 11, 7:54pm
made sure I forgot about the austruckinfailures 30+ years ago!

movnon, Mar 11, 8:02pm
the Cavaliar is Toyota in name only- bad move for Toyota to team up with GM crap!Genuine toy cars are bullet proof.

roys351, Mar 11, 8:05pm
trekka

roys351, Mar 11, 8:13pm
comon problem for xb xc xd xe xf xg xh

cedric15, Mar 11, 8:13pm
In nearly 50 years of driving I have had in that time had 5 cars fail terminally on the side of the road. Four of them have been V Ws and one Mitizi.

movnon, Mar 11, 8:13pm
watta waste of doe! when I started my apprenticeship in '66 they told me to buy a set of smaller whit ring/oe'ers & 3 whit sockets - best advice I got on tool purchases- most of them are hardly worn. Even the sae gear hardly sees the light of day now!

thejazzpianoma, Mar 11, 8:14pm
Yip and they were probably two deer.

thejazzpianoma, Mar 11, 8:16pm
Yip, like their diesels that don't crack heads and their old people movers that don't decapitate the driver in a crash or overheat.

thejazzpianoma, Mar 11, 8:28pm
What part exactly did they have right!
The massive amount of oil that needed changing every 5000km!
The pathetic fuel economy!

It takes about 60 litres of oil to do the oil changes for 30'000km with a 1HZ vs less than 5 in a good modern common rail!

Unfortunately Toyota have left their run into common rail engines very late due to their being no domestic market for Diesels. Sadly its been a poor first attempt as well. It will be interesting to see just how long they can get away with trading on smoke and mirrors.

tobusy4u, Mar 11, 8:32pm
and holdens from this century

franc123, Mar 11, 9:01pm
Umm, the ability to be operated in harsh conditions/remote places in continents like Africa and Australia and keep going for hundreds of thousands of km's and the ability to be kept going with relatively simple technology.That is what made Cruisers the legend that they are.Some of the modern diesel technology is about as useful as a snake in an arse kicking competition if it needs to be plugged into a specialist electronic device to even figure out whats wrong with it, let alone fix it.Places like the Aussie outback are of course littered with VW and Fiat agents with full diagnostics and parts inventories ready to deal with any problem you might have.NOT!If your Fiat Ducato or VW Toerag dies in the arse somewhere remote due to some silly problem with some electronic piece of crap you don't need anywayyou can be in a potentially life threatening situation, at least until you can get a tow from someone with a Cruiser or Patrol whose fuel system can be repaired easily.The Euro manufacturers of course have absolutely no answer to this problem, its also highly unlikely that they would recommend running 30K on one sumpful of oil either in such conditions.

thejazzpianoma, Mar 11, 9:55pm
Good point. those crazy voodoo over complicated VW's would be terrible in harsh conditions. Just imagine if they entered them in some torturous event like the Dakar!

Oh. wait. they did. and they have won for the last 3 years.

Glad to see your rebuttal is so strong that it relies on using the vehicle in remote parts of other countries. Nice!

pdc1, Mar 12, 2:49am
oops, hadn't read the op properly. Didn't help that other people were talking older cars too.
One that fits the 10 - 15year time frame is the first series of the Nissan Neo diesel 3 litre motor.

craig04, Mar 12, 3:15am
VW's would be fine as long as they didn't have over 42,000km's on the clock.

Also, the UN use Cruisers too. These are just examples of the right tool for the job. You always talk about people have 4wd's and not using them for what they were designed. Anyway, off topic.

phillip.weston, Mar 12, 5:43am
I really don't think the Paris Dakar rally is a good example - we all know the rally cars are incredibly far from the road going models. What about the Mitsubishi Pajero - even though it hasn't entered in the last few years, it is still the most successful winner in the C1/2/3 class to date - would you say that's a reflection on the road going Pajero! Probably not.

ema1, Mar 12, 8:06am
Also lots are .Found On Rubbish Dumps.

ema1, Mar 12, 8:11am
I do and still got most of em too, though they reside in a drawer that I haven't opened in a good while but years ago was opened frequently, as were the AF & Metric ones back then!

ema1, Mar 12, 8:15am
I had a number of BMC & BL. cars years ago too socram and they were pretty good reliability wise save for odd oil leaks here & there which seem to be more common with them.
Again a lot comes down to the owners "reliability" in keeping a regular maintenance schedule as with today's vehicles which in some makes could be a bit more tolerantto the lack of attention of their owners.
Lots of owners with the following syndrome pity. the just get in turn the key and drive like a bat out of hell from the get go when car hasn't even had a chance to warm up .is a big possibly the biggest of car killers!

phalanax, Mar 12, 8:19am
Lets not forget the austin morris and minis that stopped going in the rain cause the dizzys got drenched thru the grill but thats alot longer than the 15 years ago.i havent really had a worse.yet.lol

ema1, Mar 12, 8:24am
I always carried a can of de watering spray in my ones. WD40 or CRC556 or similar, plus I fitted a splash shield (usually made from a 2 litre plastic milk bottle over the dizzy. worked brilliantly.) lots had protective covers that tended to get thrown away thus the problem arose more frequently.!

thejazzpianoma, Mar 12, 9:31am
Just because I have enjoyed a good stir! Will behave now and leave the thread to as it was intended.
http://tinyurl.com/4jdktk3 Oh and for good measure, I don't think you would want to argue with this common rail monster http://tinyurl.com/67wk66v

The military/low tech solution argument is a pretty sketchy one given the new military vehicles are about the most technologically sophisticated on earth.

O.K. o.k. I really will leave it alone now!