I do not need weapons or ammo working on either is bad enough lol
ema1,
Apr 28, 11:30pm
That's what Ford did with the Mk4 Zephyr V6 (60deg V) engine to get the original Transit/Corsair V4 (still using the 60degV configuration thus producing an odd firing engine without crank shaft modification to produce even fire.) Commodore/Buick designed 3.8litre V6 is actually a 90deg configuration effectively a V6 cyl version of some GM Buick/Oldsmobile V8 engine of years ago 307 cid Oldsmobile comes to mind,that started off as a rough odd firing engine in Buick's then GM-H & Buick engineers redesigned the crank with offset(split pin) rod journals to effect even firing in their 90deg V6 engine which GM USA adopted for their 90deg V6 engines from 1977 abouts until they went to 60deg configuration that Commodore Alloy Tech now is. The old Buick V6 3.8 I actually had experience with as an old friend owned one that I drove periodically, believe me they were rough as guts engines with the odd firing set up.It was a 1974 Apollo model. 60deg V6 allows for even firing with common paired rod journals simplifying crank design. Just like the 90deg V8 allows for even firing with paired rods on crank journals. So both Ford & GM have done their fair share of "short cut" engineering stints in the past from their "very large parts bins!"
bellky,
Apr 28, 11:46pm
I'm starting to like this idea more and more. Personally I don't like turb'd 4-pots but in a Falcon! Oh yes!
mantagsi,
Apr 29, 12:12am
Well I drive a toyota so I have instantly acheived a Starbucks level smugness that the rest of you plebs will never understand
Four cylinders are the first step down the road to fwd. It's just a matter of time before there won't be rear wheel drive cars easily avaliable to the great unwashed masses
The vk 5spd 4cyl wasnt to bad, but the vk wasnt much of a big car compared to something like an ea falcon or xf falcon of that era, if you put a 4cyl in a car the size of your average falcon, it wouldnt look right imho.
richynuts,
Apr 29, 5:40am
That will be good for 2nd hand car buyers then!
franc123,
Apr 29, 5:41am
Yes it did, had the local content regs not changed it would have been even more costly for them to have used the RB engines, maybe even prohibitively so. GMH was pretty broke at the time.
gunhand,
Apr 29, 5:47am
MMMMM I think things technology wise have moved on just a wee bit since 1989, thats like 23 years ago. But with most things time will tell how it will go and sell. Im sure Ford done some research before going ahead.And I would think that fleet managers may look hard at these cars. After all fleet sales make up a huge part of over all sales.Not every rep, taxi driver etc need half what the 6 may offer but will be getting most of it in a 4 now maybe.
foxdonut,
Apr 29, 6:20am
Might as well just buy a Mondeo.
Seems like a waste of time building a whole new car that probably won't be that popular.
nightboss,
Apr 29, 7:12am
Wrong to assume the only engine for the new Falcon will be the Ecoboost4. It will be one of the engine options, the 6 and V8 will be part of the lineup at least to start with. The Directors of all car companies make their strategic plans based on what they can sell, they will not choose to harm their market share deliberately. Yes a 4cyl Falcon is a first, I bet the project will have logged up many thousand of hours of planning prior to the first one reaching a showroom. It is sales that determine the range a manufacturer offers, and it is to the new car buyer that they are pitching. The person that buys a three, four or five year old car is not the prime focus of their company. For example (from Wikipedia) "Production of the XY Falcon range totalled 118,666 vehicles. 1,557 XY Falcon GTs and 300 XY GT-HOs were built." which equals 1.31% GTs and 0.25% GT-HO. Popularity is based on market acceptance, if they can price it close to similar offerings from competitors then it should work.
vtecintegra,
Apr 29, 7:32am
Are there any similar offerings!
smac,
Apr 29, 7:51am
Heh.once it's on sale the closest thing to the ecoboost falcon will be the ecoboost mondeo! They've been edging closer the last couple models, and I think once the aussie govt package runs out (2016!) the falcon will be gone. The only way it can be saved is if they bring one of the US models (mustang) south and rebadge it falcon, but it will still be a global model, not an aussie one.
smac,
Apr 29, 8:33am
They seem to take a rather liberal definition of 'similar'. Wouldn't want to be the 4th passenger in most of those.
bubbles244,
Apr 29, 8:56am
and here is the kicker anyway.the v6's used in the folden falcadores today have similar economy if not better as any 2.0 litre four pot from japland.take the SR20 or toytota/beams 3s ge . 12l per 100 they reckon,
vtecintegra,
Apr 29, 8:58am
Who reckons!
Anyway in general the big sixes can match (or at least get close to) small fours on the open road, but around town economy suffers from the extra weight.
tshop,
Apr 29, 11:31am
An engine is slanted to reduce the lift of the rods & pistions, VW nailed it with the flat 4 beetle, no vertical angle at all.
Must be a good'un. And now of course Falcon drivers can say their car has a jaguar engine.
gammelvind,
May 4, 2:23am
This nothing new, Mercedes-benz and BMW have been doing it for years, maybe not seen out on this side of the world so much, but they have been putting small engines in large bodies.Not everyone wants the big car for performance, they want it for its size or looks. A 4 pot Falcon sitting in the drive looks like any other coon, and if you are impressed by such a thing you will be impressed.
bellky,
May 4, 2:28am
This might be the point; leading the market sort of thing!
elect70,
May 4, 3:19am
Give them a few years to iron out the enevitablebugs & it will be OK . Theworld aint full of us petrol heads anymore, its allsaving the planet , saving oil& looking like you mean it .Might follow the baby jag, never took off & was droppedwonder ifford fans will take to it .
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