Just wondering if you guys could give me some advice on buying a van (budget $5k) for travelling, camping etc and the odd town trip)
Just need something with a decent track record even for high kms. Any good vans for around $5k! Anything to be particularly mindful of!
Much appreciated
msj23,
Sep 30, 10:01pm
thanks intrade
trdbzr,
Sep 30, 10:20pm
toyota townace/liteace
msj23,
Sep 30, 10:26pm
have heard good things about the liteace's. I guess they run and run, cheers
thejazzpianoma,
Sep 30, 10:27pm
I would go Mercedes/VW/Fiat with a common rail diesel engine. Its going to cost very little to run, be reliable, loads of room for gear and have plenty of go.
You can find them in reasonable condition for 5K too, but you will have to look around and may need some patience.
msj23,
Sep 30, 10:28pm
cheers jazz - will have a look
morrisjvan,
Oct 1, 7:32am
unless you do big k's a diesel will cost more to run than a petrol.
thejazzpianoma,
Oct 1, 7:37am
This statement is far to general and therefore not even close to being accurate.
Actual running costs on any petrol van of similar size/price will be significantly more than the Euro Common rail diesels I have recommended for example.
Its really only the rubbishy old fashioned diesels like the Hiace that have high running costs, due to their excessive maintenance requirements and thirst.
Feel free to do the math, I even made a webpage to make it easy for you a while back. www.dieselvspetrol.webs.com
thejazzpianoma,
Oct 1, 7:41am
You are welcome. BTW, when you say "van" were you thinking a larger campervan size like the Ducato or a smaller Mercedes Vito/Hiace size!
From your description, it sounded like it was mostly being used for sleeping/traveling. If that's the case and it was me I would tend to go for the larger size, something high top that you can stand in, set up a decent bed and even shower/cooker etc if you want. Running costs on a big Ducato Diesel will still be less than a little Petrol litace (seriously!).
Those big vans are still comfortable to drive and not at all slow either, a 2.3 Ducato will pull out and pass with gusto, no problems at all.
llortmt,
Oct 1, 7:48am
Until their DPF blocks up when the EGR that cant be blanked off without specialist software, fails at the top of the East Cape. 'DPF whats that bro is it a second Cat! Should have brought a Toyota Bro'. The thing with 'math' is there's no accounting for common sense! I know, I know 'Go away you knuckle dragging trolls'
incar.,
Oct 1, 10:19am
My Professional advice for you would be not to even think about it, will cost you a lot more than just $ for keeping them running, look for Toyota or Nissan, older Mitsubishi aren't that great but you might get a early 2000 L300 for that sort of money, don??
sr2,
Oct 1, 10:25am
None of us can understand a word you are saying but is there any chance of you sharing some of the drugs you are on!
incar.,
Oct 1, 10:41am
lols
kdcentralni,
Oct 1, 7:10pm
Get a Mk5 smiley trasnit high roof they are wicked.
thejazzpianoma,
Oct 1, 8:41pm
LOL, the usual trolls who have never owned one are here to try and discreditall modern vans. (because all modern vans are common rail).
BTW, the newmodel (about to be introduced) Toyota Hiace IS a Fiat with a Toyota badge, because Toyota have admitted they just can't build a competitive product. Trying to say a Toyota diesel (which are renowned for expensive head failures) is somehow more reliable than a common rail Fiat/Mercedes/VW is just laughable and smacks of ignorance.
Likewise running costs including maintenance and repairs are MUCH lower on a VW/Fiat/Mercedes common rail diesel.
The Toyota requires servicing about 3 times more often because its inefficient which causes it to pollute its oil with un-burnt fuel etc very quickly. Also, because of this lack of efficiency even when pushing a much smaller body its still going to use 30% more diesel. That's why no one makes those old diesels any more (that and because they are so inefficient they likely wouldn't comply with emissions laws).
incar.,
Oct 1, 8:58pm
bla bla bla you always for get to consider repair costs when these vehicle's shit themselves don't you,( or they never break-down) oh wait your not a qualified practicing mechanic so you will never know!the closest you get to real facts is what you dig up on Google, you Google troll
thejazzpianoma,
Oct 2, 12:43am
Respectable mechanics don't tend to have to puff their chest out every second sentence are remind everyone that they are "qualified", just thought I would let you know.
And yeah. what would I know, its not like I own, drive, maintain and pay the running costs on common rail diesels like these. oh wait. I do.
incar.,
Oct 2, 2:06am
And very proud to be qualified, that means my valid statements override your unqualified bull shit which always confuses people and secondly thinking people have the time and money to spend on pointless vehicles you advise, also like I keep telling you but you JUST don't listen due to your ignorance- no one wants to wait weeks for parts, not everyone wants or can repair and service their vehicles in which you are so proud of doing, well good for you but I don't care I simply care about people making the right well informed decision, well actually it's my profession!
00quattro00,
Oct 2, 2:13am
Jazz he doesnt like them because they dont generate enough work for him, or maybe he just doesnt know how
incar.,
Oct 2, 2:22am
Lols so Saturday I inspected a Nz new full service history 2005 Quattro- fail with oil leaks, computer faults bla bla, 2006 VW golf Nz full service history- fail again, 1998 VW golf import- fail all in one day, or perhaps I have higher standards then the other inspectors operating and expect vehicle manufactures to be the same but Euro cars in NZ don't cut it.
incar.,
Oct 2, 2:24am
Also this statements suits you and your boy friend
We humans are intelligent, but we are still dumb! .
thejazzpianoma,
Oct 2, 3:39am
Well, he did have to come and ask how to time a basic mechanical fuel pump on a VW, so no wonder the new ones confuse him.
Anyhow, as always incar's comments and attitude are self explanatory, the OP shouldn't have to do too much head scratching to figure out what's what. Especially as all modern vans use this system, so clearly its reliable enough for everyone else in the world. Not to mention our own NZ Ambulances, long haul courier vehicles, posties etc
Toyota's (ironically) are one of the very few exceptions to the rule, they have had serious issues with their rush to market attempt at common rail systems. However they have realised this and begun replacing them with Fiat, BMW and Peugeot/Citroen units.
incar.,
Oct 2, 4:15am
Lols Qualitat replaced the cam belt and it snapped after 3 weeks thats why i didnt get involved now there is a rattle which they have no idea about and can't figure out why the belt snapped perhaps I should tell them to contact you as you seem to THINK you know everything
trdbzr,
Oct 2, 4:27am
Be careful now, when Jazz is told its time to walk the walk, he's known to run for the hills.
incar.,
Oct 2, 5:05am
Either that or he is frantically trolling google for answers and editing it. Or maybe him and Quattro have gone to polish each others Vag badges
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