our justice system and the police ird and other gov deps all need a major overhaul , brought in line with aussy systems jails the same ,2 much corruption there and here but there has to be a medium where things do work for society and drinking and killing with a car is manslaughter as much as we d hate to be in that position 5 years jail first time 10 yeras 2 nd time and we ll break their legs ,sorry bout my typing it bites me every day thatthe road toll still climbs with the many many fartwitss on the road that kill
carmad50,
Dec 23, 4:32pm
a texting drunk driver killed my sister nearly killed my niece she was a well known lass in the southland area was a mum a wife had lots of passions , wiped on a sunday morning drive only she never got home again .sucks no end I tell ya
bellky,
Dec 23, 4:34pm
You.
jason18,
Dec 23, 4:57pm
Post somewhere that cares
panelvanner,
Dec 23, 6:16pm
My brother lives in Denmark, 1st DD offence is no license for 12 mo. Fully loss of car for ever. 2nd offence no license again, but for ever, and jail. Should be same here.
jason18,
Dec 23, 6:25pm
That would be a spot on punishment. I cant believe there are people on 12th and over drink driving convictions.Still driving around
johnf_456,
Dec 23, 9:15pm
Sadly there is, a mate i knows mate is on his ninth. And yet he is still driving around
murray55,
Dec 23, 9:30pm
Totally agree .our judges are a disgrace !Can't believe how weak they are .what on earth are they afraid of ! .that they might hurt the feelings of some drunk creep who has just mowed down an innocent family. Should be zero tolerance for all .caught and it's permanent vehicle confiscation and loss of license for life. How hard is it to not drink and drive !
carmad50,
Dec 23, 9:43pm
murray it dosent stop them loosing car and licence hence 5years minimum woud do and breaking their legs as well as 10 years in jail 2nd time would see it fall heaps ,belkys ure a worry bud and that othe wonker who cares well I do for one, gimme ur address bud I ll come break ur legs the very next time you get behind the wheel and drink drive bostards like you dont deserve to live a normal life borstards like you kill and maim people every year o Im sorry I was excuses at the the time too fringin bad for those killed aye plonkers in here make my blood boil at times but then thats exactly what theyre after ay
carmad50,
Dec 23, 9:44pm
one fella above had cooled down from punching walls ouch mate better to be the person who maimed the family I think young or old asian or pakaha dont care my baseball bat wont care either
bellky,
Dec 23, 9:46pm
Kamikaze.
bellky,
Dec 23, 9:47pm
Have some more plonk.
dr.doolittle,
Dec 23, 9:49pm
Why do you all blame the justice system for drunk drivers! Stiffer penalties wont stop people dying. It's not the justice systems fault they drove drunk & crashed. Perhaps they are alcoholic, so not entirely capable of making the rational decision to NOT drive. Who are these people drinking with who allow their friends to get behind the wheel drunk! Workmates, brothers, relations, bartenders. Should they be held more responsible!
I'm not making excuses for anyone. I just think part of the answer lies elsewhere.
c_weatherston,
Dec 23, 10:54pm
if that's not making excuses then what is it!
kazbanz,
Dec 23, 11:00pm
I get your point doctor d but change has to start somewhere. The system allows them to repeat offend easilly. Yes societies attitude does indeed need to change.
fordkiwi27,
Dec 23, 11:05pm
belky you are a idiot. no one likes you go away
carstauranga001,
Dec 23, 11:18pm
There are times when I think you are just a F**ken W**ker. Now is one of those times and if this gets me banned then so be it. I don't care.
doomy999,
Dec 23, 11:34pm
I think nearly every one hear apart from his best mate johnny boy agrees with you.
grangies,
Dec 23, 11:34pm
The law should be on the level of alcohol in the breath/blood.
For instance. For the first offense anywhere between 80-120mg in the blood will mean loss of license for 5 years and NO EXEMPTIONS!
For the first offense anything over 120mgs 15 years NO EXEMPTIONS !
And for any second offense, minimum jails of 3 years and loss of license for ever NO EXEMPTIONS !
Third offense 10 years minimum jail NO EXEMPTIONS ! Even if on your 3rd offense you are only just a fraction over the limit, 10 years minimum !
jmma,
Dec 23, 11:36pm
Bellky, there is a right time and a wrong time, this is a wrong time. Stop and think )o: Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
skin1235,
Dec 24, 12:25am
and the reality is that none of the above will happen
$130k to keep a prisoner inside for a year, you want to waste $750k for first time caught and $1.6m for second
sensible sentencing yes but that is crazy sentencing, you'd have better luck calling for the death penalty to be reinstated, and then the lawyers would keep making the same $1.5m keeping the offender alive
as someone esle has already pointed out - jail time won't fix it, harsher penalties won't fix it
society has to fix it, and for that to happen society has to own the issue and change the social perception of drinking and driving it is still a challenge to drink and drive and get away with it, society has to change that attitude
jason18,
Dec 24, 12:45am
Awesome quote! Will nick that!
snoopy221,
Dec 24, 12:47am
Fact remains we are sheep. We now have . Parking assist. A B S . Stability. Air bags.
E T C. One day the *sheep* factor will go to a seat belt ignition interlock.
Meanwhile the legislation introduced 3 months ago has currently placed 15 repeat drunk drivers with an ignition interlock.
Now as to putting the ambulance at the very top of the ***Turn key BEFORE moving cliff****
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