I took an Audi 2.0T quattro for a drive recently. I noticed something that to me seems to be a fault, and would like to know from owners and those in the know whether I'm right or not. When pulling away, the car seemed "lethargic" and then appeared to change gear and went like the clappers. It was only for the first second or two, do the gearchange thing, and then went really well. Is this normal! It only did it in auto mode. Tiptronic seemed fine. No noises or clunks anywhere. I stopped numerous times to see if it went away, but did it each time. Cheers
b.m.c1,
Jan 23, 4:24am
It may have been in sports mode on the trans . It makes the trans drive harder ! the other thing is if the battery had gone flat and the had not been driven the car is still in learn mode but will get better in time ! About hour or so of driving should fix it ! Were there any lights on the dashor trans flashing !
haventrader,
Jan 23, 4:39am
Hi, no lights on the dash or flashing. I tried pulling away in normal drive mode as well as in sports - both were the same. Tiptronic it was not there- just accelerated smoothly. Just felt a bit weird and was not expected.
mopeds,
Jan 23, 4:43am
Its called turbo lag
haventrader,
Jan 23, 6:16am
Definitely not turbo lag what I was experiencing there. I've driven / owned many cars with turbo's, and never experienced that before. I'll find another and drive that too to compare. Cheers
gypsyguy,
Jan 23, 6:47am
It wouldn't be set in a 'snow' mode, i suppose! I believe 'snow' mode makes automatic cars start off in second gear to avoid low-geared wheel-spin on slippery surfaces. Using tiptronic could override this, then when back on auto it reverts back to 'snow' mode. Often this is set/unset by a separate button. Maybe!
thejazzpianoma,
Jan 23, 7:35am
What model was it! Being a Quattro I am assuming A4!
Just trying to think what transmission it will have, it won't be DSG. if its Multitronic(CVT) it may just be how it is, I haven't driven that engine in an A4 so I am not sure entirely. We had a regular 2.0 FSI Multitronic in the family some years ago, I remember it was a gutless pig full stop, due to the detuned version of the2.0 FSI.
I can tell you though that engine does not lag, it should feel torquy right from the beginning. I suspect because even without the Turbo it still develops plenty of KW.
If its not the transmission my guess would be Turbo diverter valve, the early 2.0T's had one that did wear out quite early. Cheap and easy to replace with an uprated one if that is the problem and a scan for fault codes will tell you straight away if that's the issue.
Hope that helps.
haventrader,
Jan 23, 7:36am
Yes, that's what it felt like. Was unusual though that it would tend to change gear then go like crazy. If it was not Quattro I'd would probably have been spinning the wheels. I might just go back tomorrow for another drive. Thanks all for the input so far!
haventrader,
Jan 23, 7:39am
Thanks Jazz, yep, A4. Was not DSG. Lovely car- just put off by this experience. Alarm bells start ringing from all the posts etc one gets surrounding transmissions these days. I'll go back tomorrow for another drive.
thejazzpianoma,
Jan 23, 7:41am
I think it is the CVT box, definitely get the codes scanned if you are thinking of purchasing it. If you can tell us if it has 6 or 7 gears in tiptronic mode I can clarify more which transmission it has. Hope that helps.
thejazzpianoma,
Jan 23, 7:46am
Also. Don't forget to check when the timing belt was last done. If it hasn't been done yet is miles overdue regardless of km's due to age, if its been done 4 years ago its about due to be done again. Feel free to come back for some advice if its due, you want to make sure everything is done at once and properly on those.
haventrader,
Jan 23, 8:01am
Thanks. Its done 100k and no sign of the belt being replaced. I believe it is the 6 speed tiptronic, but could be wrong. The saleskid thought it was a 7 speed, but then also told me the engine was chain driven.that's when I started losing interest.I'll get back there with a vengeance, unless something else crops up that gets my attention before then.
thejazzpianoma,
Jan 23, 8:01am
O.K. so I am bored and looked it up.
The Quattro versions have the ZF 6 speed regular auto from what I can see. I have never driven the box but given its a regular auto doing that I would be taking my time and getting everything checked properly by an Audi specialist before purchase.
There are a few other things to check on that motor before purchase too so come back for some tips if you want.
Have fun!
thejazzpianoma,
Jan 23, 8:02am
Snap. you are on the right track.
thejazzpianoma,
Jan 23, 8:05am
100K and no replacement I would be taking it very gingerly for immediate replacement of the cambelt if I bought it.
I would also service the transmission, not sure what the go is with the ZF but the Audi regular auto's I have dealt with have all been easily serviceable.
I would allow a good $2500 to have the big service done and everything brought right up to date. I can give you a list of what I would have done in that service there are a couple of odd bits you might not think of if you get that far.
Also. when you go back, check to make sure it has the purple G12 coolant in it. If it hasen't that is not a good sign.
Don't let me put you off with the above, that is a real cracker of an engine and the A4 is a very nice car if mated with enough KW which the 2.0T should provide easily.
Oh, and I wouldn't let the dealers mechanic do the cambelt, its an easy job but there a lot of shortcuts that can be taken. I suggest you haggle for a discount and arrange it yourself on your terms.
b.m.c1,
Jan 23, 9:05am
Just one more point I would like at is it a jappo import ! I know when i worked for ccs and did service course's we talked about the fact that jappo cars are at a low spec to the ones from euro .Diffident engine to trans combos etc .if it is a jappo stay away from it . cost to fix is high and over 50% had faulty transmissions .
thejazzpianoma,
Jan 23, 9:41am
We have had 8 Jap import Audi/VW's in the family. No serious faults yet, actually almost no faults at all. Spec does vary, especially with the Audi's some of which are basic (VW's seem to be sold more in spec packages in Japan from what I gather) but there are plenty of high/top spec ones as well.
I have seen the Japanese do some weird things to cars so I wouldn't be surprised if there were a fair few low grade ones that had been abused with iffy transmissions.
snoopy221,
Jan 23, 9:50am
If it was not Quattro I'd would probably have been spinning the wheels.
It may still have traction control- causing what you describe
incar.,
Jan 23, 9:58am
i inspected a 06 A4 yesterday, same issue, speed sensor fault, dont go near any without carrying out a full diagnostic scan
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