If V8 Superscars are slow then

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clark20, Feb 8, 12:22am
LM Audis and Porsches (Factory race cars) must be really slow then.

http://www.bathurst12hour.com.au/timing/results.php!race=91

rob_man, Feb 8, 1:57am
Who said they were slow! I think the consensus is that they're a tad monotonous in the same way F1 is while having an inflated opinion of their attraction.

mantagsi, Feb 8, 2:23am
+1 well said sir

austingtir, Feb 8, 2:27am
It makes you wonder though.Why watch the same cars in a uniform line go around the track when you can watch atleast some different cars that are closer to a street car give a meaningful performance relative to the manufacturers design.

gammelvind, Feb 8, 3:10am
I would have agreed with you on the F1 in the past, but this last year was amazing, never seen a more exciting season.
Might even start looking at the V8s again now that there are some variation in manufacturers.

sr2, Feb 8, 3:11am
The factory race cars are the ones the punt round Le Mans, these are modified production cars.

hi-ling, Feb 8, 3:41am
Whats interesting when you look down the list, is the the mighty nissan skyline, the worlds greatest car,(or so some on here claim) is 2 seconds a lap slower than a poxy old Holden VY taxi.LOL

clark20, Feb 8, 3:45am
They are the ones they use at Le Mans (hence the LM in their name), the faster ones are custom sports cars (like F1 cars with bodies). I do not think V8s are slow, it pisses me off when people call them dinosaurs, they are fast (esp for the money)

rob_man, Feb 8, 3:49am
Of course the driver has no influence over that eh!
A real shame there's no coverage.

sr2, Feb 8, 3:52am
I'm sure you're right, so we can expect a V8 Supercar entry in Le mans next year!

clark20, Feb 8, 3:57am
yeah that would be a laugh to watch. With "real" LM race teams they are probably a lot faster.(dialled in etc)

gman35, Feb 8, 4:17am
Yep , This whole supercars thing is bollocks to me, bring back group A or at least some type of cars that have relevance to road cars (and with their actual brand components). Even if they do weigh them down / limit speed / whatever , at least you get some differences in the looks / size / handling character of the cars . Otherwise it is just like nascar / F1 , but slower. What's the point .

splinter67, Feb 8, 12:24pm
Well if ya dont like them dont watch them simple really. I suppose you didnt like hq racing either

bill-robinson, Feb 8, 12:32pm
what's an hq!

splinter67, Feb 8, 12:35pm
Hq holden come on bill wake up

mrfxit, Feb 8, 12:46pm
HQ racing = HOW to QUIT racing ;-)

hpaul, Feb 8, 1:14pm
Monotonous!

For the last few years V8 Supercars has been one of the most exciting race series anywhere in the world.

hawat, Feb 8, 1:22pm
Peter Brock drove at Le Mans a couple of times but he drove a Porsche and a BMW. BUT I seem to recall that a Commodore actually competed at Le Mans once but didn't do any good. Can anyone else remember the details!

serf407, Feb 8, 1:29pm
Baird at the October 2012 Bathurst meeting did a 2.09.4 for the Carrera record.

http://youtu.be/0wjkGshSRIg(2.09.4) at 16.40 If no-one got hurt , the supercars could do one these a season . http://youtu.be/1AhSFcjbJos(flames) Brock at Le mans with the porsche, they did an engine in practice which required a quick drive to (and back from ) Germany to get a new engine.
from the Porsche factory. Perkins crashed during the race.
http://www.motorsportretro.com/2008/12/peter-brock-larry-perkins-a-porsche-956-and-le-mans-1984/

esprit, Feb 8, 1:30pm
The faster ones are not custom sports cars. the GTs racing at Bathurst this weekend are largely GT3-spec, which are still very heavily road based and based on homologated road cars, they're not a tube-frame silhouette racer like the V8 supercars are.

Quite impressive that road-based cars are only 2-3 seconds a lap slower than dedicated race cars that have years of legacy data at that circuit.

clark20, Feb 8, 1:42pm
No, the other way around. Quite impressive for a in-expensive and regulated (heavy, low HP for weight, small tyres) to be 2-3 s faster than factory race cars (and supercars) worth millions

Edit "The faster ones" I was referring to the all out LeMans racers, the single seaters (with a spare seat LOL)

serf407, Feb 8, 1:46pm
Brock's and Perkin's drive across Europe in a Kombi van was for Silverston before Le Mans.

http://motoring.ninemsn.com.au/cars/features/1023770/brock-tribute-brock-at-lemans

rob_man, Feb 8, 2:31pm
Call it what you like, I still get more excited watching old footage of group A racing than their franchise.

wrong2, Feb 8, 2:41pm
is that how you see it , REALLY !!!!!

genuine lol

bill-robinson, Feb 8, 2:45pm
after contemplating the posts, I think 'Hardly Quick' is more applicable.