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gabbysnana, Aug 3, 8:03pm
Anyone have an idea of cost to replace the torque convertor . And what is the torque convertor, googles not really helpful.

petal_91, Aug 3, 8:33pm
It is a component of the automatic transmission. I expect you're looking at a few thousand to fix one of those. Ring an automatic transmission specialist or two and ask for an estimate. My guess would be about $4000.

intrade, Aug 3, 8:47pm
its basically like the clutch of the automatic engine not really but that is the location where the torque converter is sitting where the clutch is on a manual.
its basically like a 2 fans one blows and the other spinns from the blowing = converting torque and hence its name torque converter, this is the most simple explenation of how and why its not 100% like that but so you understand its function.

intrade, Aug 3, 8:50pm
torque converter broken = absolute no drive what so ever and usually rrrrrrggggrrr noises from gearbox . rebuild cost 380$+
its not that expensive only frawdsters charge way more the prices is about 10 year old but lets say you double that 700$ today at a guess.
Question is is it really the torque converter and only that broken. ?
imput shaft seal of converter transmission is where i have seen mitsubishis leak fluids out.= more problems then just converter
the price above dont includes removal of transmission only pure rebuild of the torque converter in a professional shop.

intrade, Aug 3, 8:55pm
http://s.hswstatic.com/gif/torque-cutaway.jpg

the turbine is the fan i refered to in the above analogy.
and the pump is the secound fan i talked about.

gabbysnana, Aug 4, 12:49am
it has transmission shudder at 60k and 80 k, was bought by a girl on saturday from a car dealer, they didnt disclose it, advertised it as drives well, it had no fuel in it and her test drive was round the carpark and round the block, just going thru process of what to do, who to speak to and pinpoint what is wrong to get prices etc.

brapbrap8, Aug 4, 1:09am
Woah!

Wait a minute.

Take it back to the dealer, it is their job to have it fixed at their cost.

frytime, Aug 4, 1:10am
Take it back to the dealer?

yogibearz, Aug 4, 1:17am
its the damper clutch in the torque converter. It may be as simple as a transmission oil change and flush for a few hundred dollars or as extensive as a recond torque converter for a few thousand dollars. Not unusual at all for that sort of car.

brapbrap8, Aug 4, 7:50am
No, take it back to the dealer, it won't cost you anything.

gabbysnana, Aug 4, 9:17am
Its being checked by mitz 2morrow so we know what we are taking it back for. Really disappointed. I see on the sale docket cga doesnt apply, says he. Its a major fail.

stevo2, Aug 4, 9:26am
Not quite correct there. Unless you are a business, the dealer now CANNOT contract out of the CGA. Its against the law.
It also depends when you bought it as the law changed earlier this year.
Also I would be taking it directly back to the dealer without letting a 3rd party (Mitsi dealer) touch it.

seadubya, Aug 4, 9:32am
If the car was bought by a private individual in the last week from a dealer then it is covered by the CGA, the dealer cannot contract out of it.
Here are your rights and some advice on how to deal with your problem http://www.consumeraffairs.govt.nz/for-consumers/motor-vehicles/got-a-problem/faulty-or-defective-vehicles#rights

franc123, Aug 4, 9:42am
About time some of these dealers were getting prosecuted for this sort of nonsense, and also about time they got themselves a better idea of the real condition of what they are selling. There is open disregard of the law happening and yet its just business as usual. Its their problem, not yours, they do however need to be given the opportunity to rectify the issue before it goes anywhere else. They aren't under obligation to pay third party bills at this point unless its agreed to prior.

lusty9, Aug 4, 9:42am
mitsi's are notorious for shuddering especially around the GDI era - Galants, Grandis and your one. This is due to it not having regular transmission fluid drains. I'd be inclined to have it fully serviced i.e full transmission draining and flushed then hope that fixes the problem it will for a while and then when it shudders again get it serviced. Dirty transmission fluid stops the T/C from locking and it will grab and then let go, grab and let go which is transferred to the occupant as a shuddering sensation.

franc123, Aug 4, 9:48am
Using the wrong fluid causes that too, but at this point its still the dealers responsibility to rectify.

lusty9, Aug 4, 9:51am
Any transmission fluid is good just because manufacturers recommend one brand doesn't mean another is wrong for it unless you put engine oil in the transmission. And yes it is the dealers responsibility to remedy but don't be surprised they only give it a service and then its good for the warranty and plays up again once warranty ends, get rid of it, it'll only cause you heartache, increased fuel costs and stress.

lusty9, Aug 4, 10:00am
If its shuddering at speed its most probably in need of T/M fluid change - but ask for a flush, simply draining the fluid and topping it up does not get rid of all the dirty fluid infact there maybe 1-2ltrs of dirty fluid left in the case, simply draining and topping up defeats the purpose. Ask specifically for a transmission flush. Once its going good get rid of it.

franc123, Aug 4, 10:27am
Umm no, ANY trans fluid won't do, most autos used in Mitsi product in the last 20 years have specific spec requirements, don't try and tell anybody any different. Ignorant fools attempting to use cheap fluids or Dex3 in units that are not made for it are a leading cause of harsh shift problems that don't really do it more favours than leaving the old but correct fluid in it. Hondas are bad for it too, and as for CVT's don't even go there if you aren't going to use the right fluid or another that is of the correct spec.

underconstructy, Aug 4, 10:47am
I had one replaced in a 2003 Turbo Aircrew it cost me $1400.

lusty9, Aug 4, 10:47am
we agree to disagree, I've worked on many transmissions in the last 30yrs and its simple really; any clean fluid will help it better than dirty, black burn't fluid. My wife has a toyota cvt blade 3.5 and I service it with what fluids I think is good and not the recommended nothing wrong with the cvt.

petal_91, Aug 4, 11:16am
You are lucky there because the 3.5L Blade has a standard auto not a CVT. It will probably survive OK on Dexron III or whatever you have put in it at least for a while.

lusty9, Aug 4, 11:27am
No it doesn't we bort it new in 2010 and it has the 6 speed cvt

henderson_guy, Aug 4, 5:46pm
How does a CVT have 6 speeds?

cjohnw, Aug 4, 6:49pm
No sorry you are mistaken. I have a 2008 Toyota Blade 3.5 and it is definately not a CVT gearbox.
The 2.3 however does have the CVT.