What would you use to repower a CF Bedford van?

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steve56467, Mar 12, 7:46am
All Bedford jokes aside, I think the 202 red motor is a bit old hat by now. A V8 must be pretty noisy inside the cab and maybe unnecessary. Who thinks a V8 is the way to go, must be somebody here who’s had one. 3.8 Holden Buick motor? 1JZ?
Anybody seen a more modern lump pounded through the floor of a cf? Something plentiful easily found and available parts etc
Feasible suggestions?

steve56467, Mar 12, 7:48am
It’s the small one, 230, low roof, not the big heavy duty lump with dual wheels

sr2, Mar 12, 7:51am
Have you replaced the diff with a more suitable ratio?
(i.e. PC Cresta or 3.3 Victor).

steve56467, Mar 12, 8:02am
Good suggestion. Basically I want more power though, cruising at 100, pulling over hills without 30 cars behind me, instead of working a slant 4

sr2, Mar 12, 8:12am
You'll need to budget for at least changing the diff ratio and if going to V8 you'll need a heavier rear end.
The 3.8 V6 is not a huge improvement over the venerable Holden Red and any "V" configuration motor seriously restricts driver foot room in a CF.

tweake, Mar 12, 8:15am
does it have to be petrol?
must be plenty of turbo diesels around with reasonable power. a lot better for pushing that weight around with.

tony9, Mar 12, 8:19am
Of course you know it will need a modification cert, so you need to be discussing the transplant with your certifier about now.

franc123, Mar 12, 8:25am
Colorado Motori commonrail diesel and 6 spd auto is what I would use if I could be bothered with one of those heavy old rust traps. Going to a modern diesel is the only thing that will deliver decent torque and economy.

steve56467, Mar 12, 8:28am
Mostly the idea of a diesel clattering next to my knee inside the cab put me off. The ambulances all had the red motor so been done plenty of times, fairly outdated now isn’t it? Must be something more efficient etc. Or do you guys think keep it simple low tech?

evotime, Mar 12, 8:31am
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The skid factory is a great YouTube channel and did a barra repower of a bedford. Definitely not his best or most loved repower but still a good watch

https://youtu.be/eA_dkvjUUu4

steve56467, Mar 12, 8:36am
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Ahh haa I watched that last night. Bit disappointing there’s no skids at the end. That’s bit more than I was thinking. Definitely. “interesting”!

steve56467, Mar 12, 8:37am
Also I saw them hack a huge section from the X member to fit that in?

tweake, Mar 12, 8:47am
the downside of most modern stuff is the complex electronics.
so it may pay to keep to the stuff thats already been well sorted.
eg toyota 4l v8, holden 3.8 v6.
or go old school carbs.

unfortunately i don't know what room you have to play with in those.
or if this is something thats going to driven a lot.

trogedon, Mar 12, 9:21am
A friend had a Rover 4 speed with electric overdrive gearbox behind a 202 in his custom CF. That went well.

sr2, Mar 12, 9:48am
Hey; your "modern electronics" are anything but complicated.
I cut my teeth with Zenith, SU & Solex - graduated to Holley, Weber and Dellorto and then had my mind blown discovering fuel injection. Get your head around how it works (Google is your friend) and you'll never look back.

3tomany, Mar 12, 10:00am
Make contact with these guys. Fish is very helpful but gary is the bedford guru.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/897021743652183

3tomany, Mar 12, 10:05am

kazbanz, Mar 12, 10:17am
V8 imo isn’t the way to go . 4.0 l straight 6 would be torquey enough

redhead18, Mar 12, 10:23am
To be honest back in the day a 327-later years on LD28 was the go.
Nowadays weell shoot me down in flames BUT a Toyota 1HDT diesel and auto would IMHO be a good start point for drivability reliability and economy



Aye ole fish. good bugga

3tomany, Mar 12, 10:56am
Old posters will remember him. Yip a genuine good bugger.

marte, Mar 12, 11:08am
LD28 was quite common. There's been a few CF Bedford's being sold on Facebook in Invercargill lately, one with LD28.

I heard something about dumping the whole van onto a 1985 Mitzi L300 chassis, and I know a Buick V6 would fit in a L300 because I have seen that done before. Gives a 4WD CF Bedford with a Buick V6. Quite a project I expect.

gph1961, Mar 12, 7:07pm
nissan RB sohc they have a little lean
went for yonks in JDM

paul861, Mar 12, 7:25pm
5.9 cummins. roll some coal

intrade, Mar 12, 7:52pm
i would get inspiration from deboss garage. what ever you do . What ever you do keep in mind it will cost big money and certification if you change engines, if you dont have 20k+ then forget it before you start.

tamarillo, Mar 12, 8:08pm
Electric. If only short distance machine it would have torque, easy to position, quiet, etc. perfect.