Motorcycle accident stats.

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s_nz, Jan 24, 10:54pm
Pritty sure the Rider would be deemed at fault in any single vehicle crash. The situation you describe with loosing the aged front tire seems to be an example of a vehicle ridden beyond it's capabilities.

"The behaviour of several drivers may contribute to a crash, but only one driver is assigned the primary responsibility. This driver is called the at-fault driver. Primary responsibility (at-fault) for a crash is based on the crash movements and crash cause factors assigned in the Crash Analysis System. It is not based on legal liability or court conviction. Fault/responsibility here only considers driver and rider factors contributing to the crash. There may also be road or system factors that contributed to the crash. How this is calculated has changed in the new Crash Analysis System, so numbers presented here are not comparable to those previously published here."

https://www.transport.govt.nz/statistics-and-insights/glossary-and-references/

s_nz, Jan 24, 11:29pm
In non covid time, I spend a bit of time in the Philipines.

Situation is competently different to here. Bikes larger than 175cc are pritty rare Most are 125cc or smaller, many with push bike thickness tires. Most non tolled roads are fairly rough, and the motorbikes tend to ride at about 30km/h I assume largely for comfort on the rough surface. Generally it is the Cars, SUV's and vans passing motorbikes, the opposite situation to NZ. The teenager's & hoon's have similar bikes, often with modified exhausts, and will travel at cira 70km/h which is fast enough to pass most traffic. occasional you see a large displacement sportsbike or cruiser, but they are very rare.

Bikes under 400cc are banned from the tollway's / expressways which are pritty much the only places you can travel at 100km/h.

Still see the motorcycle crashes even with the low speed.

Other factor is people don't really follow give way rules, so everybody expects that car pulling out of a side road to cut them off.

I would speculate that the motorcycle rego hikes mean that non enthusiasts on motorbikes are somewhat of a dying breed. (Perhaps limited to a few thousand in Auckland / Wellington with no car-parking space at home, or where free motorcycle parking in the city (or at uni) means they can afford to commute by motorbike but not car.

With a higher percentage of motorbike riders in NZ being enthusiast's, it is likely that going fast and pushing the limits of their bikes in cornering and the likes is part of the appeal. Also is is likely a greater percentage of riding being done on scenic open roads (coromandal loop etc) rather than busy urban environments. The combination of factors means I am not surprised at fault crashes percentages are trending upwards in NZ.

But yes, having spent a bit of time on a push bike, a decent chunk of drivers are looking for car size objects and just don't notice a bike. Something that is less of an issue where bikes far outnumber car's

tygertung, Jan 25, 7:44am
In Vietnam, they use the river system of road use, where everything just flows and pretty much the only road rule is merge. Everything just flows nicely. In NZ and other "western" countries (even though NZ is in the east), everyone just jams on the brakes all the time and stops. It is much more relaxing with the river system, although there are too many cars in NZ for that to work as they are so bulky.

tgray, Jan 25, 8:12am
A quick Google search reveals appalling stats in Vietnam re motorcyle accidents and death.

tygertung, Jan 25, 12:46pm
Yes, but noone wears any safety gear apart from helmets, and a lot of those helmets have less protection than a bicycle helmet.

Also they take large loads on the motorbikes sometimes such as heatpumps and large panes of glass.

If they wore better safety gear and had trailers for the cargo it would improve safety somewhat.

And some of the streets are extra busy, so it might add to the risk a little.

elect70, Jan 25, 2:49pm
Expect a rise in ACC levy & insurance .Bad one sth Levin other week but not saying who was responsible , truck vs motorcycle the 2 survived but serious injuruies .

cassina1, Jan 28, 9:37pm
Its work safe that investigates farm bike accidents.

cassina1, Jan 28, 9:42pm
If the govt is allowing electric bikes registration free as they help "Save The Planet" its about time motorcycle riders were given credit for saving the planet too with lower registration. Electric bike accidents are on the way up too so they must be becoming another midlife crisis choice of transport too.

sr2, Sep 21, 11:52am
correct.