Fault in VW "new" gearbox

Prepare. Put on rubber gloves. Rubber gloves are a must when washing dishes. You can use the finger to rub off gunk, and it keeps your hands from getting disgusting (remember its not a Fiat, the dishes may be dirty) If you have long sleeves, roll them up or put them under the gloves. Aprons are optional (unless you drive a Toyota).

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Scrape off as much of the food as possible into the compost bin or disposal, rather than get your brush/sponge and water clogged with it.

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Consider rinsing, or lightly washing, heavily soiled items before putting them into the water. This is easiest if you have two sinks, or one sink with a washing bowl/tub, since you can tip the water away without mucking up your wash water. For example, put a bit of hot water into a pan, swish it around with your brush and tip the water away.

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Begin by spreading the dishes out, making sure everything has a clear view of the tap. Stack them from bottom to top in this order: Silverware, pots, plates, bowls, cups. Fill each item with water, except for the silverware. If you drive a Euro, you possess logic and reasoning this should come naturally.

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fill the sink with water, as many of us were taught to do. Filling the sink with water and adding soap is the most efficient. Do not put the tap on full blast to avoid splashing water. Use as high a temperature as you can comfortably tolerate, but don't scald yourself. The hotter the water, the better its sanitizing and grease-cutting properties. If possible, use dish gloves to protect your hands and to stand hotter water.
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Try dipping the sponge in to the soapy water to deliver more soap to certain areas.
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Start with the silverware. Since it goes in the mouth, it needs the cleanest, hottest water possible.
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Wash things next that are touched to your mouth, like cups and glasses, so they will benefit from hot, clean water.
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Wash pots and pans last since they will really dirty the water. Let them soak first. If anything was burnt or cooked to pots or casserole dishes, put a little extra soap and water in it and let it soak while you wash the other dishes.
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Generally, dip the thing to be cleaned in the water. Wipe it vigorously while in the water. Remove from the water and examine. If muck remains, rub with sponge, or other utensil, until removed. If the muck is very difficult to get out, fill the item with water. Then use your fingers (not your nails!) and rub the muck off. If that doesn't work, use iron wool. Do not use the back of a sponge, because that will cause morsels of food to stick to it. Rinse. If clean, place to dry on drying rack, or dry with tea towel. An assistant is useful here.
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For most of your washing up, unless you have had to use a lot of washing up liquid or soap, there will be little rinsing required. If your washing up is not excessively dirty, but tastes soapy, consider that you may either be using more soap than necessary, or not rinsing sufficiently. Glasses can benefit from a hot rinse.
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If you use the hottest water you can stand, china and glass should dry by themselves very quickly, as they will be hot. Metal will also dry quickly, although the appearance of metal can be improved by drying with a linen tea towel. This prevents watermarks, and makes it shine.
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Care should be taken with wood. It should not be soaked if at all possible, and should be dried thoroughly before being put away. This will probably involve drying both with a tea towel, and air-drying in a rack. It is often worth turning wooden objects every so often as they dry, since they may be in contact with puddles of water.

Craig! Snap, your faster than I!

# Some things, especially baked on food, benefit from soaking. This does not mean putting all the washing up in the sink and leaving it until you need to use the sink again. If only a few things need soaking, like pans or bowls, fill them with very hot water and a tiny bit of washing up liquid. If they're very bad, one can purchase stronger products to add, but care should be taken with these as they can be caustic. Wear rubber gloves and do not allow it near eyes. If the things to be soaked are not of the right sort to be filled, or are numerous, put them in the sink, ensuring all the dirty areas are covered with hot, soapy water. Leave to soak while you finish washing everything else, or for about 10 minutes. After 10 minutes there are diminishing returns, so there's no point in soaking much longer. Attack the dirt with the brush first, as this will quickly get rid of the majority of the softened food. Then follow the usual techniques. These objects are more likely to require rinsing, and definitely will if you've used more aggressive chemicals than standard washing up liquid.
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When clean, there should be no visible matter and no "greasy" feel. Run a hand over the dish to ensure that it offers some resistance. If your fingers slide over the item too fluidly and without squeaking, there is probably some grease remaining, if so you should rewash the item.
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Tip water out of washing up bowl, or pull plug in sink. Remove food from plughole and place in bin, or run disposal. Rinse sink (and bowl if used), using a sponge or brush to help.
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Also rinse out brush, sponge or rag & allow to dry. It can be a good idea to sterilize your equipment every so often, either using boiling water or bleach. When a sponge or brush starts to smell unpleasant, and the smell is not removed by rinsing, throw it away.
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Remember, this is about being clean--you don't want to eat on a dirty dish! Its almost as bad as having to drive a Corolla.

Yes, but in fairness to you, you were actually doing the dishes.
Good night all.

Good night Craig!
Sorry Kaz. I really did hijack this one. Will leave you in peace now!

Good shit. Made my night.

thanks . i have done the dishes as per your desciption .
you guys seem to know your stuff.
now tomorrow me an the wife are going shopping for a car.
we want something small butroomy and cheap torun , maybe a toyta corrolla or suzuki swift or a fiat multipla .whats your thoughts on these

Not sure if they will fit in the sink(o:

Doesn't matter about the size of the sink, as long as a Multipla fits down the waste disposal unit where it belongs is whats important.

Speaks for itself doesn't it Jazz!

Ive driven an import dsg golf 50k and it almost grenaded on the test drive. Huge thump and then no drive. So in theory what you say could've happened to me. I restarted car and it let me limp back to the dealer.
Was happy to run far from that car. Scary to think how much that would have cost the dealer to repair.

If doesn't quite work like that, you are in a gear with ONE other gear preselected (so in second either 1st OR 3rd would be preselected depending on what gear the computer thinks you'll want next).This is why its called dual-clutch.

I have no idea how the computer figures out which gear you'll want next but it does seem to do a very good job of it.

But you are wrong, according the Jazz these things never break, and they are more reliable than an Asian car such as a Toyota Corolla which needs frequent and expensive servicing.

I'd take my car to some different gearbox guys in that case :)

This is a pretty good summary of how it all works: http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q/DSG-faq-VW-Audi.htm

Interesting. I guess one would be very brave to take the DSG anywhere but the dealer for servicing and repair. Which means $$$$.

Cool, great question Kaz. now we have something decent to work with. To be straight up, I am yet to have a problem with one but then we have only had the three in the family so far.

The only recall I am aware of is for the very late ones (two years old) which was a temperature sensor (I think!) and not a big deal.

So far as I am aware the gearbox is very reliable overall, however like all things with moving parts there will be weak points and some will break.

Having seen the Factory service videos some time ago I have a lot of faith in how the thing works and is put together. They are using them in Commercial vehicles already which makes a lot of sense when you think about it because you don't have the heat issues of a regular auto and you can't slip the clutch causing premature wear.

Sorry I can't be of more help on how widespread the problem actually is, hopefully VAGCentral can give us some actual numbers.

The big thing with these is they are not an auto. That means that the auto transmission experts probably have no clue what to do with them. It also means that servicing is basic and rarely required.

To my knowledge they don't require the regular adjustments that the likes of Alfa's selespeed does which is an annual hookup to a diagnostic machine where they adjust the clutch travel etc. (This is actually not asbig a deal as it sounds BTW, much as I am not a selespeed fan)

I would not be scared of taking one to Qualitat or one of the better VW dealers, from seeing the factory videos most of the bits that look like they need attention are very easy and quick to access.

There was also talk some years ago about a replacement clutch unit hitting the market fora reasonable price but it was not to be released for some time as the clutches should last some serious km's.

Thats about all I know, if there really is an issue affecting a fair number of cars I would love to know about it. Just like I don't recommend year 2000 Punto's, Tipo's etc I would want to know if there are some to avoid.

My gut feeling on this though is it will be affecting a very small number of cars and I wouldn't be surprised if it is partially as a result of abuse. I have seen the Japanese do some very very weird things with cars. Anyone who has bought in damaged ones will know doubt know what I mean!

Remember too. this is a VERY popular gearbox so even quite a number of failures may only equal a tiny percentage.

If it was a Volvo I would agree, but some VW Dealers and aftermarket specialists are actually very reasonable for VW and the servicing is few and far between.

Remember too the typical owner is usually saving a minimum of $600 a year in fuel compared to a similar performing auto car (sometimes a LOT more) and you don't have to pay for regular transmission flush's etc. So the numbers are still very good.

Just wait until you drive one!
I was all keen for a Selespeed when they came out but was bitterly dissapointed when I tried one. I was reluctant after that to try the DSG but man its everything the Selespeed isnt and it really does solve all the major drawbacks of an auto.