Braided brake lines

directorylist, Mar 2, 12:42am
I'm looking at getting a few bits together for an upcomming rebuild of an old triumph i have.
just wondering, if its ok to use braided brake lines! i vaguely remember there being some issue with them!

directorylist, Mar 2, 12:49am
Any idea how to find out what that is!

directorylist, Mar 2, 12:59am
They are sold from a very reputable triumph parts specialist in the UK, so i doubt they will have NZS marks, any allowance for international marks!

kcf, Mar 2, 1:18am
That isn't the current requirements.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/virm-in-service-certification/docs/gen-8-brakes-v4a1.1.pdf

page 5, "Reasons for Rejection".

17. A flexible hydraulic brake hose (including connections):
a) is leaking brake fluid, or
b) is insecure, or
c) bulges under pressure, or
d) is twisted, stretched or chafed, or
e) has external sheathing which is cracked to the extent that the reinforcing cords are exposed, or
f) has metal connections which are excessively corroded, or
g) has an end fitting which is not attached to the hose by means of swaging, machine crimping or a similar process (Note 3).

Note 3 Hose end fittings that can be undone using hand tools are unacceptable.

directorylist, Mar 2, 1:27am
So they should be ok!

Goodridge branded

Brake lines are U.S. Department of Transportation certified and T.U.V. approved"Brake lines are U.S. Department of Transportation certified and T.U.V. approved"

kcf, Mar 2, 1:35am
I have no idea if the brake lines you are looking at comply with the above . are they a crimped / swaged fitting!If so, and if they are in good condition and meet the above list then they should be ok.

Get information about the parts you are looking at, and take all that information in to see your WOF guy.

Information you get on message boards and forums is only as accurate as whomever the first person to hit "reply" is, and is also only as good as the information you provide.

directorylist, Mar 2, 1:59am
Ah yeah i know, the interwebs isn't always that accurate :)

http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-RH5374GR

Is the part i'm looking at,No idea whatswagged means :) sorry

sr2, Mar 2, 2:12am
I good caught out a few years back getting a Targa car certified and had to replace an expensive set of imported aftermarket braided brake hoses with a locally made set that meet the NZ legal requirements. I??

kcf, Mar 2, 2:14am
braided lines don't need LVV cert these days, so no need to consult a certifier.Back in the day though the rules were very different (which is why you went to a certifier back then, and why somebody suggested that standards compliance labels were needed).The rules have changed though.

Swaged means "I can't take it apart with a pair of spanners".I'd suggest you copy / paste the VIRM extract I quoted, and then email that to the supplier and say "are your brake lines like this!"

richardmayes, Mar 2, 8:16am
I take it you mean the Goodridge brand ones from Rimmer Bros! I have these on my PI, and never so much as a sideways glance from VTNZ.

peril787b1, Mar 2, 9:32am
"Dragon" branded lines have the FMVSS107 (federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards) approval and you can get them in black chrome fittings with dark smoked lines. They look good as and are legal for road use. Not sure who'd stock them in your area, but they're worth a look. As far as certification goes, they're classed as an upgrade so only need "in service" approval, meaning a WOF.

directorylist, Jun 7, 4:53pm
Thats them, cheers for that.