I don't like paying taxes which are for the gain of everyone else (ie society) but I still have to.
owene,
Jan 31, 12:30am
Ah yep that does. But looking at it from the other angle, who should carry that risk if this errant group is not 3P'd! The rest of us!
fordcrzy,
Jan 31, 12:36am
Absolutly not. thats why a graduated CTP system is needed. it works in england and in Aus.cant see why it cant work here.
phillip.weston,
Jan 31, 12:38am
the CTP portion of the rego costs in Australia only cover personal injury liability insurance - ie what ACC would cover. There is no third party vehicle damage insurance in Australia.
saffa2,
Jan 31, 12:39am
Entirely different.
shelleigh,
Jan 31, 12:40am
If they can not pay outright then an amount should be deducted off their pay/benefit until the full amount is paid.
fordcrzy,
Jan 31, 12:43am
Of course ANY car found driving without CTP should be TOWED IMMEDIATLY. and stored.if they cant afford the tow storage fee then the car is crushed.one less uninsured muppet on the road.
in england uninsured cars are towed straight away.no questons asked and the driver walks home
curlcrown,
Jan 31, 12:52am
What's everyone's problem with un insured drivers! The fact is it is not a legal requrement in this country and if any one gets upset by people without car insurance then that's a choice they have made to get upset about it. A driver without insurance has just as much right to be on the road as one with insurance. Not all uninsured drivers are muppets either. I can think of two ocasions where uninsured drives have taken responcability and paid for repairs themselves. If you have full cover you have nothing to worrey about anyway.
owene,
Jan 31, 1:59am
But they usually have no incomes and deducting from benefits is harder than getting a glass of whiskey out of a Dutchman.
owene,
Jan 31, 2:00am
So I take it that you've never been pranged by an uninsured driver then!
owene,
Jan 31, 2:00am
Correct.
+100
owene,
Jan 31, 2:01am
Could you please explain what a graduated CTP system is!
owene,
Jan 31, 2:02am
In what way is it different! By not having insurance, you are exposing the rest of society to the risk of your causing a crash and damaging their property. How is that fair- you being able to expose me to that risk without obtaining my agreement!
ceedoubleyou,
Jan 31, 2:08am
complusory - strictly enforced, too easy to drive without WOF and rego.
bellky,
Jan 31, 2:08am
bla bla bla - do you have an axe to grind!
fordcrzy,
Jan 31, 2:18am
the car (and in some cases the driver) are ranked into insurancee groups depending on risk.for instance a 1.3 ford fiesta is cheaper than a WRX. but if you get busted driving with the wrong insurance group then the fines are huge (and you walk).
kazbanz,
Jan 31, 2:27am
I agree wholeheartedly that ALLcars on the road should have third party insurance. Actually as far as I'm concerned its easy. There should be two registration prices. One for the driver who produces insurance documents and a higher rate for those who choose not to insure the car. The higher rate includes the third party insurance.
curlcrown,
Jan 31, 2:27am
You imply that you concent to me causing damage to your property as long as I have insurance.
owene,
Jan 31, 3:11am
What a strange assumption!
I consent to being exposed to the RISK of your crashing into me as long as you have adequate insurance to put the damage right.
I do NOT consent to you exposing me to the RISK of your crashing into me if you don't have that risk insured. Why should I or my insurance cover the risk that YOU are presenting me with!
owene,
Jan 31, 3:14am
Well it's even easier than that.
1. Required a minimum of 3P in order to license the vehicle (the same mechanism as currently required a valid WOF).
2. Seize any vehicle that is stopped with no Licence/3P/WOF.There are plenty of cops out there stopping speedsters so up the ante for these other penalties.
owene,
Jan 31, 3:14am
Well it's even easier than that.
1. Required a minimum of 3P in order to license the vehicle (the same mechanism that currently requires a valid WOF).
2. Seize any vehicle that is stopped with no Licence/3P/WOF.There are plenty of cops out there stopping speedsters so up the ante for these other penalties.
owene,
Jan 31, 3:16am
Or more likely are you lucky enough to have never been whacked by an uninsured driver!
wrong2,
Jan 31, 3:28am
no - rather they probally know whats going to happen once it goes compulsory
dont force it on people, motoring already costs enough now
the only "insurance" you really need is open eyeballs & a working brain
wrong2,
Jan 31, 3:29am
how about you just dont crash
its not inevitable you realise - you can actually avoid them
owene,
Jan 31, 3:54am
And you don't think that you owe any responsibility to the rest of us to cover our losses when you do crash into us! Or are you so cash-rich that you'll be capable of writing a huge cheque to cover all of our losses!
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