How old are you? What happens if gubbermint decides to tax the shit out of fossil cars to force people onto cleaner forms of transport? I have the horrible feeling that this is what they are going to do eventually.
gammelvind,
Sep 2, 7:08am
I wouldn't know about the camping ground, haven't been to one of those for 40 years, but don't remember they were talking about Honda Cubs then most of the discussions revolved around fishing.
apollo11,
Sep 2, 7:12am
Unintelligible sorry vinnie.
gammelvind,
Sep 2, 7:16am
With personal solar and wind generation, we will run out of fuel before electricity but the reality of running out of either is negligible.
apollo11,
Sep 2, 7:18am
Got any photos of your beast vinnie?
rsr72,
Sep 2, 7:29am
As long as my bum is facing the ground, never!
apollo11,
Sep 2, 7:31am
Post a few up, Would be keen for a look.
,
Sep 2, 7:57am
How is this related to E.Vs?. Sure Honda 50s are great bikes, I've owned one and had about 15 different Honda's at various times. But they're hardly a practical transport solution for the family. They're not even practical for my 50km open road commute to work each day. Screw that when it's minus 5 degrees, with a 50km southerly and pouring with rain. Let alone snow or hail.
apollo11,
Sep 2, 8:08am
So really your enemy is Globalism, Consumerism and mass consumption of garbage from China, not electric cars? Well most of the people on this forum probably feel the same way, but if you really cared about the environment you would ditch your cortina and cubs and buy yourself a pushbike ay? Instead you make fun of the people who say they ride bikes. Why is that?
,
Sep 2, 8:19am
The only hope is that we can do all of the things we do today that pollute, in exactly the same way, without the emissions and pollution. Technology is our only hope, nobody will accept not being able to do the things they do now. EVs are an existing example of a step towards this goal.
apollo11,
Sep 2, 8:39am
No, that would be the horse.
apollo11,
Sep 2, 8:41am
Well I have a horse. How about you?
apollo11,
Sep 2, 8:52am
So who says you can't have a woman to go cycling with? Seeing a woman's butt in lycra in front of you might motivate you to spin your scrawny pins. Or do you not like women who are fit, and probably stronger than you?
apollo11,
Sep 2, 9:09am
Why? Cycling must be similar to horse riding for toning. Strong thighs, great core strength, amazing stamina. You could have your own little rodeo.
gammelvind,
Sep 2, 9:20am
I'm afraid you are part of this endless destruction and pollution as you are calling it. I appreciate in a smaller way but in order for you to be communicating in this forum you are online using the very ungreen technology that you rail against.
apollo11,
Sep 2, 9:24am
His favourite aftershave is 'hint of hypocrisy'.
,
Sep 2, 10:00am
But your Honda 50 is very advanced technology, compared to 100 years before hand it's state of the art. Technology is all encompassing of all human society from the dawn of time. Your argument doesn't make any sense?
framtech,
Sep 2, 12:25pm
over 60 and the bureaucrats can get stuffed, there is no way they could force that, what do you do with the existing 1.015 billion vehicles that are fuelled by oil, it will take 30 years plus to change the fleet and what do you do with 1 billion used EV batteries , little only mine the lithium for 1 billion cars,that is, if there is that much in the ground. ? The whole thing a green wet dream,
,
Sep 2, 12:34pm
It will be a natural progression, people will replace thier cars with EVs when they replace their cars. They'll do it because they'll be cheaper to buy, cheaper to run and better to drive. Governments are already taxing fuel, they'll tax it even more. This will happen, it won't be a particularly big deal and you won't have any say over it.
Used EV batteries will be a sought after resource for industrial and domestic energy storage where physical size doesn't matter. They already are.
harm_less,
Sep 2, 3:40pm
We spent a few days in London earlier this week and saw a lot of EVs and hybrids. Mainly Prius, Hondas, BMWs, Leafs, and Hyundai, but probably many more I didn't recognise. A few EV "Zip cars" and racks of electric bicycles both of which are use on demand systems.
We've been told that some of the hybrids are owned to get around congestion tax and are seldom used in electric mode but at least they are still destined for availability to the secondhand market within a few years.
New Zealand is lagging behind in EV uptake though I feel consumer demand will drive this upwards despite the (current) government's foot dragging in this regard.
remmers,
Sep 2, 4:20pm
Well we have had our Nissan Leaf for 12 months and have travelled over 10,000Km. Silent and so much constant torque a real pleasure to drive, still a great experience after a year. No more ICE vehicles for us but the haters will keep hating, same as the blacksmiths did at the advent of the 4 stoke petrol engine.
harm_less,
Sep 2, 5:03pm
This video presentation addresses many of the criticisms levelled at EVs and their impact on the electricity supply network. Very much a case of thinking smarter rather than based on current ideology.
It's alot more attractive than a Honda 50 Cub, and pretty much all of the plastic is recycled.
,
Sep 4, 1:43pm
Not at all, total generation hardly needs to increase, and of course we'll all save a heap by NOT HAVING TO PAY FOR FUEL!
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