Yeah, probably wouldn't go with your Mullet anyway and your black singlet would clash with the colour. Not to mention your neighbours would think you'd won Lotto. 2nd thoughts, you're probably better of in the crap box Te drama
mals69,
Dec 16, 12:36pm
Is that the Ethopia lotto you speak of ? LMFAO
Ask any good mechanic on here what they would choose between a euro or a D21 terrano for longevity (from new) and dare say most would pick the terrano. Crikey people can still get 4 grand for a tidy 25 year old terrano, people picking up euros for less that are 15 years old (or less) - speaks volumes. Not transplanting TD27 (D21) motors into London black cabs for nothing and getting 1/2 million plus k's out of them.
poppy62,
Dec 16, 2:24pm
FYI I have a 1991 2.3 (now 2.7) Nissan Datsun Crap box ute since 2007. Not through choice, I hate it, never passed a WOF without spending time and money on it, it is even more uncomfortable than my bullock cart, it's thirsty, noisy, creaks and rattles, causes back ache and it was only ever built for 5 foot nothing Japanese, with the same optional extras as a Morris Minor. I look forward to replacing it one day ( when I move away from my sons and other borrowers). London cabs are hardly stressed when idling around the city. Check out Fake Taxi.com.
mals69,
Dec 16, 2:58pm
Oh you got one of those lightly built budget nissan utes that most manufacturers put out - take solice though that if it was a 91 euro probably would have meet the crusher years ago.
ema1,
Dec 16, 4:25pm
I don't consider my suggestions as misinformation, I'm speaking from 18 years experience in the motor trade albeit 24+ years since I was turning spanners. What I have stated is a systematic "going through" of the whole system and seeing the vehicle is the age it is replacing ALL hoses and various or even the whole system as being prudent ! I am well versed in brake systems and all other facets of automotive engineering thank you very much and if you want to pick holes in (if that's the case) my diagnoses from what the OP states as being symptoms then I will make a case of "he who isn't wise and does the obvious of replacing /overhauling the WHOLE brake system in this case is CUTTING CORNERS which I definitely am not an advocate of when the lives/safety of the vehicles owner and all other road users are at stake. PERIOD ! I stand by my statement BRAKES ARE NOT THINGS TO BE TRIFLED WITH or repaired in a HALF ARSED WAY ! All of sr2's post suggestions have been more than covered off by myself in several posts, including a complete overhaul/replacement of all components, ( I suggest all the brake system has well and truly reached it's use by date) what more can be done to ensure safety of the vehicle than (in my opinion) deal to the WHOLE SYSTEM not just part of it! Frankly I reckon brake systems of ALL vehicles should be tied to a time constraint for servicing/overhaul anyway as in the case with ALL aeronautical systems. One thing I will agree with though is having doubt about the competency of who ever has done the brake repairs in the past on the vehicle .
ema1,
Dec 16, 4:48pm
It's totally daft dealing to only an offending defective part of any brake system when it fails only to have some other part of the system fail down the track which appears to be the case here, so there's a very strong case to replace/overhaul the whole system completely . period and the term in this case "swapatrons" doesn't apply, that should more accurately be in this case "REPLACE IT ALL ATRONS" which would be totally prudent and tied to a time constraint/or time period? If any one without safety of all in mind and wants a half arsed job done then that's their affair but they come under the category of "penny pinching tight wads" and when brakes are the title subject this should be absolutely put out of their tiny minds and dealing to the whole system be made paramount. nuff said !
mals69,
Dec 16, 6:05pm
Know where you coming from - use to service lifts and preventative maintenance was at the forefront - agree ALL vehicles should be tied to a time constraint for servicing/overhaul anyway as in the case with ALL aeronautical systems !
Its murphy's law if you do the job yourself or take it to your local mechanic and it goes tits up its usually "should of gone to a break specialist" in this case I did go to a brake specialist - was in the main forced to use this guy cause the brakes failed on other side of town, empty workshop never a good sign. Also found out he has inherited the business so in this instance looks to not have the heart of daddy - he seemed lazy dealing with him.
I could go back to him but reluctant when as you say you are dealing with the important factor of brakes, probably just order new master cylinder off partzonline.co.nz and do the job myself and have it tested on a rolling road. Still got to test the vacuum pump first though.
Yah given ya precious time ema to help me out along with others and I appreciate that. Tyres (brakes even more so) are important too but think you driving/reminding it home about importance of brakes is excellent - like lot of things in life take them for granted till they do not work.
Cheers
mals69,
Dec 16, 6:14pm
Will inspect the other 3 brake hoses too, booster etc Probably get whole system from states etc for bugger all.
mals69,
Dec 16, 6:33pm
The vacuum pump sucking good - was pulling arm skin out when pulled away from it. Old lift supervisor use to say most faults are usually due to the last thing done - yep as suggested probably the master cylinder with possible damage to the booster.
gram,
Dec 16, 6:50pm
Hmm lot of vehicle for not much cash.
mals69,
Dec 16, 7:27pm
lolollollll good one
Yeah done 250,000 km and $4500 ono - next he be telling me it only just run in for a merc - not exactly deal of the century, then you would have to be paid each time you were seen in it. What were those jerrys thinking in 98 ? Its shape of something pre 75
gram,
Dec 16, 8:10pm
If it was a Toyota some clown on here WOULD tell you it's just run in and good for 500,000kms.
sr2,
Dec 16, 8:20pm
Jeeze. looks like I struck a nerve with that one! (The man doth protest too much?).
Edited to say I hope he doesn't ???overhaul ALL of the system??? on every customers car that comes in with a brake issue.
ema1,
Dec 16, 9:59pm
With a vehicle that's 24 or so years old irrespective of distance traveled in total I would expect a complete overhaul and in fact I would demand it on any of my vehicles and have done so on a couple of cars older than that as a matter of course for complete peace of minds sake and safety's sake as well. All my cars get a mandatory brake fluid change and other fluids etc serviced when due and brakes inspected frequently. Any used car I've bought in my time the first thing I do is replace all the brake hoses and overhaul master & slave + caliper seals + replace brake shoes/pads if they require it, I also do a full fluid +filter service as well and in doing so I have had very few issues in over 49years of car ownership.I.E. from 1966. I'm not one of those types to overhaul my vehicles brakes when they actually wear the shoes/pads out never have been never will be, I have always dealt personally with my vehicles brake systems on time constraint basis, pity that wasn't a more widespread action of Joe Public. Going by my motor trade time it certainly isn't the case, some of the defects/failures I've dealt with over the years in the trade makes me wonder just how safe we actually are out there on our roads. I've said before regarding driving long distances with all the vagaries it involves. I don't drive but prefer to fly, there's a lot to be said for that? Some of you folks can think what you like but my preferences are my decision and mine alone. Nah not protest as in (The man doth protest too much?). just expounding the cold simple facts, I can understand the protest when the cost angle is taken up by the nay sayers etc but I prefer to err on the side of complete safety myself irrespective of what sr2 goes on about, or what the cost is. The safety factor MUST be stressed as being of paramount importance. not blindly skoffed at.
sr2,
Dec 16, 11:08pm
No one is suggesting that regular routine maintenance is essential to keep cars operating safely and reliably.
What I am suggesting is that telling someone (quote) ???overhaul ALL of the system??? based on what appears to be a master-cyl/mastervac failure is erroneous advice; the correct process as I described earlier is to correctly diagnose the problem, assess the condition of the rest of the system and proceed with the required repairs and maintenance.
petermcg,
Dec 16, 11:10pm
Also note that the terranos do give brake problems. Some models have drums on the rear some have disks. They are known for needing some serious bleeding to keep the rear ones working. Also some models have a load sensing device ,,at the rear, and also some have ABS, but only for the rear wheels. But this one does sound a a bit like the vacuum is leaking
ema1,
Dec 16, 11:41pm
That's fine but I know what I'd be doing considering the age of the vehicle. nuff said, and I AM SUGGESTING regular routine maintenance opposite to what you say, or haven't you noticed, not to mention the ongoing history of brake problems the OP has experienced. not this fella I'm afraid. If you want to gamble. go right ahead I for one won't be going down that track ! I'd rather do what I do thanks rather than a hap hazard wait and see then fix it after the event type of scenario. That's is tantamount to "Russian Roulette" and I won't ever entertain that idea no matter what you say. period !
sr2,
Dec 16, 11:46pm
Mate I think we're probably both on the same page more than we realise; if you didn't live so bloody far away I'd invite you round for a beer and swapping a few stories.
ema1,
Dec 16, 11:50pm
Cheers . I have a few for sure as no doubt you do. Gambling is one thing BUT that depends on what one is gambling on and brake systems certainly ain't one of them. The hit and miss mentality of some repairers make me shake my head honestly, that is non negotiable with any vehicles brakes I'll have it known !
sr2,
Dec 16, 11:53pm
All good mate.
clothesline2011,
Jun 3, 10:11pm
yep some also have drum on back for hand break only and 4 wheel disc , had a mistral with drum on back simaler issue to ops was fixed by adjusting handbreak
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