Doing 100km a day on open road - what car is best?

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thejazzpianoma, May 15, 8:12am
They are worth bragging about! These cars are freaking amazing.
wrong2, May 15, 8:19am
i really wish you would stop your BS

instead of checking your random inaccurate websites - i read what Golf OWNERS were relating on VW forums

your experience was gained on fantasy island
thejazzpianoma, May 15, 8:23am
Well having been a Golf Owner myself I should qualify then!
Since you seem to know so much how about you provide some links to open road economy figures that differ from mine then!
I can see you still have clearly not bothered to do any research, you just like to sit there and try and poke holes in the qualified advice others give. I note too that you are not suggesting anything better.
fiatracer, May 15, 8:23am
I'd go for a VW/Skoda turbo diesel. If you can find one, the c. 2005 Skoda Fabia vRS will give you an easy 50+mpg and also be a riot to drive - on twisty stuff I reckon not much would keep up with one
wrong2, May 15, 8:26am
the reason i take offense to your baloney is because i have

sorry you feel your opinion is so golden that it should never be disagreed with.

btw , is safety such an issue with you because your a regualr crasher !
thejazzpianoma, May 15, 8:28am
Those figures are not my opinion (except one which is clearly stated as such) those figures are the official tested ones that are available on any number of websites. I see you still have not provided any alternative links showing different economy figures.
johnf_456, May 15, 8:29am
Just a thought guys but anyone can be wrong, but being all mighty and saying your right is not always the case. Just saying.
ct9a, May 15, 8:31am
get a diesel,put speedo on a switch and enjoy cheap motoring : )
thejazzpianoma, May 15, 8:31am
ct9a, May 15, 8:33am
worth noting only the mk5 golf is good anything prior really is rubbish
thejazzpianoma, May 15, 8:34am
The thing is these economy figures are easily verified on any number of websites. Yet every time this wrong2 idiot goes and has a go at them and does nothing but confuse the original poster. Its just pointless and pathetic trolling at best which does nothing to help anyone and just creates work for me every time showing that he is incorrect.
He needs to grow up and realise that we are talking about thousands of dollars of other peoples money here.
thejazzpianoma, May 15, 8:36am
Quite right the MK4 uses similar technology to what other manufacturers use so dosn't offer the big efficiency advantages the MK5 does.
ct9a, May 15, 8:41am
also what car yard is going to research figures for a buyer! not everyone has sound knowledge or is quick on the net in finding results.
thejazzpianoma, May 15, 8:47am
Exactly!
Thats why its so unfair to the OP to go throwing unnecessary doubt on things for no reason. If there is a mistake then by all means point it out (with evidence) but just hacking on those who are genuinely trying to help with first hand verified advice is just unfair to everyone.
thejazzpianoma, May 15, 8:52am
You just can't beat them. OP to clarify, the VW Diesel (and petrols) and wicked DSG gearbox's are used in Skoda, VW and Audi brands.
ct9a, May 15, 8:55am
what are the service intervals on them!
thejazzpianoma, May 15, 9:05am
Thats the other really neat thing. In general the intervals are really long, even on the Diesels. Also, there is not annoying automatic service/flush carry-on with the DSG, which is great if you buy one with a few km's as you don't have to worry about whether the previous owners have done it.
You can see the full schedule's online here.
http://www.bentleypublishers.com/tech/vw

In general though, for milage like the OP is doing (around 30K a year) a 6 monthly service schedule would be wise. For more typical NZ milage annual is fine.
Or they could go for the long life oil and use the extended service intervals and do annually at 30K if they wanted too.
hutchk, May 15, 9:15am
I would buy a 1996 Jaguar XJR, solely because I really want one.
thejazzpianoma, May 15, 9:18am
Its not fair to lump all diesels into the same bracket, and its definitely not fair to put the new Japanese common rails into the same catagory. Reason being Japan is 10 years behind on Diesel development due to their not selling any domestic diesel cars for that time period due to government restrictions. They have had to do a rush job and get their common rails to market in double time on a limited budget. Where as Europe has been selling more diesel cars than petrols for the last 15 years or so and put huge effort into development.

Thats why the likes of Suzuki use Fiat Diesels but build their own petrol engines, its a better way around the problem.

I am not saying the problems don't exist with some engines nor am I saying that our diesel is fantastic. However the Fiat 1.9 Common rail and the VW Diesels are phenomenally reliable and generally have no issues with our Diesel. The Fiat 1.9 common rail has been around for over 15 years in this country and many have done massive KM's.

The same definitely cannot be said for Toyota's common rail attempts which are not proving at all reliable.
vtecintegra, May 15, 9:20am
lol

Good point though, if you're going to be spending an hour or more a day commuting you may as well by something comfortable that you enjoy driving.

Bigger cars can be surprisingly okay on the open road (between 7 and 8l/100kms is possible in my 3l Skyline if you drive it really carefully) and the price difference between a Prius and an older, bigger car can buy you a hell of a lot of petrol.
ct9a, May 15, 9:21am
with anything new it takes time to refine and iron out the issues

i mean take a look how long its taken the commodore
tuttyclan, May 15, 9:35am
picxie wrote:
Hi, we're looking at moving out of town a bit and if that happens I'll be commuting 100km a day, all bar a few km's will be on the open road. We originally thought of a Prius but some brief reading seems to suggest this isn't the best idea, and we can get a more fuel efficient vehicle without having to pay big money for a hybrid.

Does anyone have any suggestions on what could be more economical! Ideally would love to get something that would do 5 - 6L to 100km.
What are you currently driving.Another thing to take into account would be the fact your going to clock up 26,000 km a year in driving to work alone.In four years thats over 100,000km A new car might deprieciate at a much higer rate given the number of kilometers per year.I would get something like a Honda Accord (mines a 1997) for under $5 k and they go forever.Just do regular preventive maintainance like any car and your away.I know of a 1996 Honda Accord with over 450,000 km on the original engine and gearbox.Its had one clutch rebuild.
Open road economy can get as good as 6 litres per 100km.Average is around 7.
jenny188, May 15, 9:41am
Late model 1600cc or less. Most 12 to 1300 cc have average grunt, moderate comfort and good fuel efficiency. Toyota are world re-nound for reliability, but generally most modern cars are good till at least 140,00 to 240,000 kilometers. Upgrade every 2 to 4 years
vtecintegra, May 15, 9:57am
At open road speeds I doubt a 1300cc Echo is going to be noticeably better than an 1800cc Corolla on fuel, and I know which one I'd rather spend time in.
rover79, May 15, 10:19am
Bought a toyota allex 1800. seems to use 7.8 lt per 100km thats town and hyway driving. They seem to be quite a strong car, fella at the garage said I won't have any expense in warrants for a while. wheel alignment and 2 front tyres is all that has been done, bought at 30thou km and now has 60 odd thou. was going to get the 1600 but it seemed to lack in grunt compared to the 1800 and I figured it wouldn't be much different fuel wise. glad I got the 1800 because its also still ok on trips and if there are four people in the car you can notice the drag on the car, but still ok on hills. so I figure a 1600 would be worse.