Fascinating thread, So the clutch kit was installed perfectly but a simple bolt isnt yeah right incompetent garages are why I repair my own vehicles.
tiggles2,
Nov 10, 4:02pm
Ok semi alive - long night Before doing anything to truck I am going to go over it with the camera and photograph anything that looks new, not quite right, catches my eyes etc I thought long and hard about all this last night I did mention the scratched pressure plate (169) but not the blue line - sorry guys - the blue line got thrown at me when pressing manager for details - I asked what about internal damage - answer bit of a blue scratched line nothing to worry about (bit like a mild carbon bolt on the draft shaft instead of a high tensile one - I don't care if i have a 'small' truck - I carry a non static load with kids - the shaft will vibrate - snap that bolt and - that is not pretty) I have my horses hot shod so know as have seen and watched for many years the shoes in the forge glow red, be shaped, cool very fast to a smoky blue colour and shin up with wear The slave has nagged at me since I looked at it Ian lost the original bolts when he took it off - he put them on the chassis and they fell off when the tow truck driver winched her up - I saw it to late - found one but not other (and put in living area with FOUR drive shaft bolts and nuts - in a wee container, with the drive shaft) New slave looks smaller (shorter) than the one Neil showed me That is not the original rod Why! Because Neil was showing me 'my' old one in the office when I picked up my truck (said back I looked at slave and could see nothing wrong with it other than bit out of seal) The old one was shinny and smooth - I had it in my hand - there were no nuts on the end of it only the stopper/ seal on the other end with a chunk of seal newly missing. I can't say in all honesty if there was a threaded part on end or if it was round like a head of a bearingmust have been for adjustment - I just don't remember yes I do - when Ian puled it off truck - there were nuts on the end - main part of rod was still bright silver and shiny I don't remember Ian pulling a spring off the fork (external) but he did say about internal springs - fork not sitting right
tiggles2,
Nov 10, 6:27pm
No have not taken apart yet - no confident too - here's why the rod from the slave is old - is it mine don't know Neil showed me "mine" so either he was lying or the have used something laying around. How do i know its old - when pulled the duct cover off there is a old rust ring not far inside around the rod - it is well used there are more nuts bolts and washers that are new - no problem - are they the correct ones. Question - forgot about it before as did not think important when got truck back first time with was a good 10cm lower to the ground - how do I know because I could not get a bale of hay or a bucket under the truck which I could before the first job did mention this to Neil when truck went for second job - truck is back now to original height from ground Suspension - long curved things stacked in hangers, rubber bits that hit the other metal frame with greasy ends that have grease nipples - would you need to undo the nuts at the grease end where it pivots and drop to get to the gear box - there are what look like new nuts on the ends by the gear box of the both front sets Going out for a few hours - then have another go it just seams to get worse every time i go under there
jmma,
Nov 10, 6:43pm
Sounds odd, put photo up when you get back. Am wondering if these are supposed to be adjustable clutches or is this a push rod made to suit!
jmma,
Nov 10, 7:20pm
One more thing, can we have the model number of the truck, please.
snoopy221,
Nov 10, 7:26pm
juss 4 U jmma
1983 Isuzu Foward KS32 - 1st reg in NZ 01/01/1983 it has done 244875 km Wisdom tooth # 224.
A clutch slave cyl, with a casting for the spring to mount onto.
tiggles2,
Nov 11, 1:28am
Long day - have climbed inside out of my truck and got stuck a few times. Don't like some of what i have found - but I also don't understand so going on gut here nothing else No snoopy did not pull whats left of dust cover off fork - why It bled fine - but come hell n high waters the nuts on the rod of the slave are not moving for love nor money (I know how to ease lock nuts - these **** are not going no where) I can push the fork off but aligning it all again cared the sh!t out of me The rod is old - pictures below soon where rod sits in fork is threaded - have pic the bolts on part of the suspension are new, there is another arm on te top of the gear box with new nut but sitting not straight but is a hmm ball joint! type thing there is blue grease everywhere I have tried to photograph the master cylinder - it is under the dash but the clutch pedal and handing upside down to get a picture made 'some' laugh. It is clean but not touched there is an adjustable screw on it that the clutch pedal hits. It is adjusted right out to stop pedal coming up any higher. jmma - your picture - the rod in it looks more like the one I was shown but nothing like what you will see in my pictures robbo 36 - same bolts used throughout truck where they have been replaced, and you are right by eye the rod is not aligned right - can't get that very well on camera
jmma,
Nov 11, 2:44am
The threaded part that looks like a nut on the clutch fork, does the rod just slip into that or does it thread into it and does it appear to be part of the fork!
Still studying the rest, looks an easy box to get out, labour cost, not sure about that.
Not sure why new nuts on spring hanger, nothing mentioned on invoices!
snoopy221,
Nov 11, 3:14am
Evenin All-How The Hell Are Ya!
Not many furter causes for concern. Not new nuts-it's been steam cleaned.
Wiring on bell housing by oil filter R.H. could be tidied up and secured better into the wiring bracket.
Tiggles.
Did you read #349 and #350 (previous page)!
snoopy221,
Nov 11, 3:16am
And how is me ole mate the return spring! Is he fitted up! Or is he feeling a bit left out!
tiggles2,
Nov 11, 3:27am
jmma - the nut thing on end of push rod is attached to push rod and sits into fork - it is hollow about 4mm up - and it comes out if you push - shove fork away but is wobbly.Yes Snoopy I did read - and backed out - not that brave when things start to not play the game the spring how ever (out of a electric fence gate handle) is quite snug - bit me once but is in place - not as strong as it should be but will suffice until can get a actual one. long nose pliers do a god job when you have too many fingers in the way Did not think of steam cleaning - as most is so grubby under there. Any of you guys know anyone from the Sulphur city MC club!
snoopy221,
Nov 11, 3:33am
Syphliss citae! LOL Nope- But i Knoe a few of da few-L O L Top Marks Gurl-ya betta dan da.[##@@$@&&^%#$] Dat left the spring off.
Hopefully it'll stay as a working pedal for a while. Without that spring ya'd be bleeding the damn thang pretty regular Until it is fixed properly. And at least we know that rod ain't gunna fall out. (No excuse for graunching gears now-L O L)
jmma,
Nov 11, 3:36am
Got a bike, but dont know them, just a sunday rider (o: So does the clutch feel better now!
tiggles2,
Nov 11, 3:50am
LMAO - ;p (there is a grubby rhyme that goes with that.) Yeah i know what goes on there - its called sharing so they tell me. Knew some from few and others from a distance.
tiggles2,
Nov 11, 3:53am
Clutch feels smoother and firmer but not hard. No gear graunching today hmm I used to ride a bike, and do have a license to (sold it for a horse truck.)
snoopy221,
Nov 11, 3:58am
Yip was around in Dino and Mitch's day So yeah clutch came up okay with a bleed! As explained the old bluee linee On Tensilesteel presure plate fingers that are in contact with a release bearing. In Analogy is akin to the aluminium frying pan overheated and left on the stove. She's a bit wobbly and uneven wen ya try and cook dose eggs. And the uneven ness is making the slave cylnder piston walk a bit and suck air in. With the spring fitted it'll go a HELL OF A LONG WAY TO REDUCE THAT
Kapeesh! Ya done a Good Thang
snoopy221,
Nov 11, 4:03am
Even over an internett keyboard experience KNOWS what is wrong-and sometimes a few simple things can help a lot
tiggles2,
Nov 11, 4:09am
I get the spring :)makes sense - regular supporting pull pressure Bleed nipple was not too tight and I used oxygen tubing (clear clean, right size and easy) into wine bottle - no skinned knuckles
tiggles2,
Nov 11, 4:11am
:) snoppy
snoopy221,
Nov 11, 4:15am
Still only a band aid on the problem at the moment. But tis better than being fed bull crap. And Just look at the mileage since ya got it back and feel the hardness in the pedal-Well firmness and ease of operation to be prescise. Bet ya it'll stay firmer for more miles with a spring. And ya did it yaself. Be Proud.
snoopy221,
Nov 11, 4:17am
After all i can foresee the *other scenario* Takes truck back. Clutch soft and gears graunching. Annuda 5 K to do syncros. Yeah Right Tui ne1!
cowlover,
Nov 11, 4:18am
The first pic just shows how useless that garage is The second pic - the white line is where the spring used to fit.
Send both pics to the garage and ask them to explain. Sorry to say whoever did the 2nd job was no better or competent than the first clown.
jmma,
Nov 11, 4:22am
Same circus, cowlover (o:
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