I think the bearing has been put on the wrong way around the hard side should take the thrust be it curved or flat sided if its the wrong side it will work for a short time then fail have seen it done !
jmma,
Nov 8, 3:36am
Might be. Can you put a photo up of the good side that is left tiggles!
jmma,
Nov 8, 3:59am
Photos are OK, just need to wait for other opinions. Come in snoopy. Been trying to make sense of all this, especially since they have mention master cyl, but I really think we can discount that as no mention of any M/cyl parts or work done on it. Yeah just sit back and wait for some more input. Still waiting for someone in your area to stick there hand up.
jmma,
Nov 8, 4:08am
UUmmm
tiggles2,
Nov 8, 4:17am
Thats what has gone through my mind for the last few hours jmma The ball bearing carrier is totally munted The ring in the middle when I put it back still moves with ease (have to watch fingers on sharp bits of self welded carrier) with no sign of welding to it other than on outer top lip a couple of very small lumps but not sharp. My question in my head is what has it rubbed / spun against to seize as it has I can't make logical sense of it The slave failing does not fit either as in the angle that the piston was out at - the math does not work
Ok get it now - it has rubbed right through the soft side lifting the carrier and flattering the balls and carrier making the self welded mess and seizing the bearing the hardened side does have a very thin (2 mm maybe) wide scratched ring going right around on the highest point when I "play" with how I hold it in the light the scratched ring is silver whereas the rest is steal grey - does that make sense - will try and get6 a photo
jmma,
Nov 8, 4:46am
That would be were it was up against the carrier and when it seized and spun has left a mark. Dont let that brg out of your sight. If Roy is reading this, he should write a chq out for $1.6k now. (o:
tiggles2,
Nov 8, 4:50am
Its here in front of me - just tried to take pictures of the scratched ring - not good in night light so will try tomorrow It will stay in a "ladies" safe place lol ;) I am going to have to fight hard for this one - they have made that clear
jmma,
Nov 8, 4:56am
This is a bearing sitting on a carrier, not ness yours, but gives you an idea.
Take brg to a garage and ask for there opinion, maybe.
tiggles2,
Nov 8, 5:03am
So what ever side the soft self welded side was against should have marks / scratches of some description - the ball bearing carrier bit inside the bearing has to have spun against something to have created the friction to self weld not to mention the very deep grooves left in the remains of it looking straight at the mess (hard side in hand) and the way it is sat / self welded I would say it spun anti clock wise as the burs etc have lifted to the left of the groves , hard self welding more on the right - does that make sense Have no idea which way it should spin
jmma,
Nov 8, 5:10am
Take it here and see if they will give you a written report as they are MTA members as well
Ok - thank you :-) We are on the same side of town The more I look and think the less the math works for a failed slave
tiggles2,
Nov 8, 5:24am
That system picture just convinces me more that it was internal failure due to incorrect installation not the slave. Albeit fork not fitted correctly, bearing back to front / not fitted correctly - it just does not add up when the time and kms are added in
jmma,
Nov 8, 5:28am
Once the brg wore through that outer casing it would have made enough clearance to cause the slave to over extend and therefore no pressure on the pedal. Thats what has caused the slave to fail.It could push far enought to activate the clutch, by that I mean it couldn't go far enough to push the release brg onto the pressure plate to release the clutch plate from the flywheel. That is why you couldn't get it into gear. Just relised what the time is, good night (o: Hear back from you when you have been to the other garage, but I think Roy will call to say he has a chq for you (o: Keep up the good fight.
jmma,
Nov 8, 5:28am
Once the brg wore through that outer casing it would have made enough clearance to cause the slave to over extend and therefore no pressure on the pedal. Thats what has caused the slave to fail.It couldn't push far enough to activate the clutch, by that I mean it couldn't go far enough to push the release brg onto the pressure plate to release the clutch plate from the flywheel. That is why you couldn't get it into gear. Just realised what the time is, good night (o: Hear back from you when you have been to the other garage, but I think Roy will call to say he has a chq for you (o: Keep up the good fight.
tiggles2,
Nov 8, 5:32am
thank you jmma - Not sure Roy will somehow but I can but hope :) Good night and thank you again :)
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