Ferrari F40 in display

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elect70, Mar 8, 2:33am
Remember the jap guywho drove his F40 accross France atvery high speed & videod it with speedo showing 100 MPh in places&put t on Utube, thepolsbusted him .

hawat, Mar 8, 6:58pm
Yeah. One of those 'OK I can die now Lord' moments. Done everything, been everywhere. But it was more than 100mph. Was like 300kph wasn't it!

floscey, Mar 8, 7:12pm
Leadfoot festivalmarch 22-24.See one in action.

elect70, Mar 9, 1:24am
I think it was Parishedrove through at 100

carkitter, Mar 10, 1:37am
You've got two things mixed up.

1) A Japanese F40 owner drove his car on the Japanese motorway at 300km/h and got busted after posting the video on YouTube.

2) A French filmmaker filmed an early morning drive across Paris at breakneck speed in a Ferrari (possibly a 275 GTB) in 1976 including an estimated 160mph along the Champs-Elysees.
http://onemansblog.com/2006/08/26/rendezvous-paris-a-ferrari-and-a-girl/

carkitter, Mar 10, 1:56am
The F1 was released in 1994.
The only official roadtest was by Autocar magazine in their May 94 issue. They tested the car at their usual test track which has a bump in it that allowed them to get the McLaren (and the Jaguar XJ220 2 months earlier) airborne at speed, which makes for a good cover shot.
Tiff Needell from Old Top Gear tested the McLaren F1 and praised it's handling.
Jeremy Clarkson drove it for a video of his own called 'Most Outrageous Video in the World. Ever!' where he debated with Tiff whether it's handling was 'skittish'.
The McLaren F1 has not set any official Power Lap around the Top Gear test track. During Clarkson's 'Top 100 cars of the Century' video he said he didn't rate it at all.

Clearly you've confused many things on YouTube into what you want to believe.

hawat, Mar 10, 3:23am
yes yes yes. You got it right. That fits what I recall better. It was 300 k's on a Japanese motorway. AND yes the Paris thing with the 275 GTB and the beautiful sound track. Sadly tho' it was a set up. The soundtrack was added and the actual footage was filmed from a Mercedes - apparently. But I still love the sound track. I often watch it and turn up the sound. Glorious.

1rad8, Mar 10, 9:44am
Oh I didn't know that was a setup.I actually saved that video lol.But the F1 is the only NA sports car thats in the top ten top speed figures of all road cars!I cannot think of anything else.Given its lower power figure than the Bugatti,it's got an impressive top speed.But maybe that comes from its gearing!

carkitter, Mar 10, 10:09am
Yes it has tall gearing, but you can add tall gearing when you only have to deal with 1018kg. Because of it's low weight, normally-aspirated throttle response and masses of torque from only 1800rpm, it accelerates in 6th gear faster than a Testarossa accelerates in 4th.

The key design differences between the McLaren F1 and the Bugatti Veyron is that the F1 was designed with a ruthless adherence to a low weight philosophy, hence the design owing much to Formula One just like the new McLaren P1 and the LaFerrari. The Veyron is designed to contain an 8 litre W16 quad-turbo engine that produced so much heat during experimental testing that it nearly burnt down the building they were testing it in. Hence it's 10 radiators and heat exchangers, large frontal area and 1888kg kerb weight. Top speed is the Veyron's purpose, in the F1 it is a byproduct of design brilliance.

wrong2, Mar 11, 5:06am
nowhere close to that speed

im not getting things mixed up here, just like im not suffering from Mclaren fanboyisim

wrong2, Mar 11, 5:09am
neither has the Ferrari Enzo

both have lap times, both from tests/TG episodes

neither official

1rad8, Mar 11, 10:11am
And that's why if given a Bugatti,I'd sell it and buy a F1 or F40 thats at CCS.Only it doesn't say anything about it on the CCS website lol.

wrong2, Mar 12, 6:02am
you do realise the clutch only lasts 5 - 7 thousand miles . . . . .

& is a $10 to 15 grand replacement job. . . . . . . (they have to break the car apart to get at it)

its a great piece of engineering (for its time) - but its a joke to call it a roadcar

carkitter, Mar 15, 8:50am
Wrong
Enzo has an official top gear power lap time of 1m19.0, currently in 15th position. The F1 does not appear on the board because it has no official lap time having not been tested since the modern Top Gear format came into being. Old Top gear did not do lap time comparisons.

I hope they will do a P1 v F1 comparison when the new car comes out.

carkitter, Mar 15, 9:05am
With the sale of the Veyron you could buy a couple of F40's but only half an F1. The last F1 that sold went for about NZ$6m and the 5 LM versions if they ever became available would sell for more than that.

carkitter, Mar 15, 9:12am
Okay, I'll give you that one if you understand that video was made in 1976 and popped up from time to time with it's legend intact throughout the 80's and 90's and was only debunked well after a little thing called the internet came along.
Some of us are a little older than we like to admit.

wrong2, Mar 15, 5:07pm
despite Ferrari not allowing it to be driven by the show, an owner had to loan one

the same also happened with the F1, & Clarkson rubbished itsoversteer biased handeling at the limit compared to its peers

gordon Murray has also said theres only one F1 that hes happy with its steering

im sorry that this is hard for you to hear about seeing as your a complete mclaren fanboy, but its not the perfect wonder car you think it is

aktow, Mar 16, 12:01pm
who gives a dam whattimes car go on top gear,, that means nothing, some have wet times and some have dry times. the driver could of had a off day.lets see the cars go around ferrari race track and then see how fast they are.

aktow, Mar 16, 12:06pm
my buddies 355f1 ferrari has had the clutch replaced three times in two years. thats $6,000 each time. he used the car as a normal day car .

wrong2, Mar 16, 8:29pm
yeah - the times tho were not the point & not relevant

what came out of their thrash in one (a proper drive unlike 99% of the test drives done by jurnos who have driven them) was that they are oversteer happy at their limit. much moreso than its main supercar rivals. they are not the perfect supercar that mclaren fanboys would love to believe they are

& part of the reason why just a clutch change costs so much to do in them is that itsbespoke & carbon, which is also why it burns out so fast. i have read that carefull owners have managed 10,000 miles before it needed changing. theres no way to drop the engine out of them, it requires breaking the rear subframe off the chassie

carkitter, Mar 17, 12:06am
I am a McLaren fan, having actually sat in the centre seat of an F1, and having driven 5 MP4-12C's.

1rad8, Mar 18, 1:34am
Oh $NZ6million is a lot of dough for a F1.Maybe just get a Dauer 962 or F40LM or a Mosler.The Mosler would be the cheapest to maintain of the lot.I wonder if anyone has a Mosler in NZ.Very rare car indded.

hawat, Mar 18, 4:33am
Mosler! I know the others there but don't know the Mosler. More please