So Euro cars have become more reliable have they

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llortmt, Feb 15, 4:31pm
Jaz has in the past been incredibility rude spiteful and disrespectful towards Incar (which was completely unnecessary) so I'm really not sure it IS that harsh in their case.
The reason it's got under his skin is because the majority in this thread are motor trade professionals who disagree with his view and so does the worlds most respected survey result!

hpaul, Feb 15, 4:37pm
No - that's harsh too.

Man hugs needed all round - Jazz and incar first.

llortmt, Feb 15, 4:41pm
That's the post! Disgusting and never an apology from Jaz, he has a VERY nasty side to him.
I started a new personal TM account (separate from my company) because of his constant belittling of my experience and qualifications not to mention the name calling.
My new user name is even in his honor you may have noticed.

johnf_456, Feb 15, 4:49pm
LOL :)

richardmayes, Feb 15, 4:51pm
WOW.

Best thread for ages.

llortmt, Feb 15, 5:32pm
I love the way Jaz goes on about the reliability of his fleet of little Fiats his company had, he tends to forget to mention they were Mk1 Fiat Pandas.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/1989_FIAT_Panda.jpg
LOL not exactly current vehicles you'd be hard pressed to find one still on the road!
Ask me about the reliability of my current fleet of Nissan March loan cars Jaz!

mazzyz, Feb 15, 5:53pm
Geez, post #45's a ripper. Here I was thinking how wound up at others posts I get sometimes but oh my, clearly I'm an amatuer.

timmo1, Feb 15, 10:06pm
Reliabilty tests of the type carried out by JD Power and others! I thought we already established that those generally aren't favourable to VW of Fiat cars!

maddog007, Feb 16, 3:23am
I agree, I've worked at premium car dealerships, and most faults aren't really there at all, they just like the attention, and free clean, but of late some cars have been less well built, but they are also getting cheaper, so that's what happens, the difference between a nice euro and a dull Jap or Korean, or AussieCan be as small as 10-15 grand now. But obviously a lot more as you go up the segment, but still the price gap is getting smaller, but the niceness gap is still vast.

tgray, Feb 16, 3:34am
If poster X said things like,

"Yes, Toyota's are indeed very reliable vehicles with great reputations and I take on board the comments mentioned by fellow people in the trade that have posted here, however I feel that Euro's offer great value for money and can be reliable providing scheduled servicing is carried out"

I feel he would get a far warmer reception that simply dismissing everyone else as ignorant fools for not agreeing with him.

thejazzpianoma, Feb 16, 3:40am
incar. pretty much only exists on this board to troll me (have a search and see for yourself).

I got really pissed off with the same nonsense and personal attacks every time and bit back one day (as you can see above).

Now he has a nice trophy which he likes to paste in to every thread so he can pretend his trolling is justified. I won't be responding to his nonsense but thought I would fill you in.

Clearly this thread has descended into the usual troll stupidity so I will take your wise advice and give it a swerve now.

johnf_456, Feb 16, 3:48am
If "only" some did that for all euro threads, incar does have a lot of truth in what he says since he works on them at times like many here. Its funny how anyone who doesn't like euros to the extent "some" do is labeled a troll.

Well said mate.

johnf_456, Feb 16, 3:52am
So where is the reply to this thejazzpianoma

austingtir, Feb 16, 4:50am
Its pretty simple mate dont talk crap about toyotas or other non euros constantly and we wont have to keep "correcting" you.

This thread was ticking along fine and then you just couldnt help yourself with the usual toyota sledging.

austingtir, Feb 16, 5:08am
The reason why Nissan is so far down this list is because this is a customer survery.Disgruntled customers are less likely to give a good rating.Nissans customer service in the usa has never been outstanding.I think the cars are generally fine and in reality would be above the black line but when you add the customer service factor into the equation it drops Nissans rating down.They simply dont look after their customers aswell as the others when something does fail.

sr2, Feb 16, 6:30am
Johnno; as we all know on this MB you have conclusively demonstrated on numerous occasions you have no mates, (some mothers do have 'em!).

snoopy221, Feb 16, 6:45am
Gor Blimey waasss beeen da hap in
ERE!
Sheesh- less juss put it
Diss Way-K

If! ya talkin euros .!
Then WHICH EURO has a totally different metallurgy for it's valve guides!

And NO it ain't FIAT.

Tip only a mechanic who has rebuilt such engines will generally answer the question

johnf_456, Feb 16, 2:07pm
there is no need for negative repetitive comments over and over again. Once again please don't name call.

Nothing wrong with being nice, move on please

skull, Feb 16, 2:08pm
Wild stab in the dark, Mercedes!

llortmt, Feb 16, 4:10pm
So true it would pay for Jaz to either piss-off or heed the following.
It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.

bmwnz, Feb 16, 4:51pm
Be fair - he is the author of his own misfortune. He continuously manages to get up everyone's nose by displaying a total lack of social manners and common sense, not to mention a failure to listen to anyone else's pov. I'm sure it is by design . no-one could live their life with an attitude like that in real life - without being taken out at some stage.

I'm calling massive troll and we all fall for it. More fools us.IMO, far better to just ignore his posts and hope he goes and lives under someone else's bridge.

skull, Feb 17, 7:58am
In my opinion johnny 5 yours is an unnecessary post that puts the boot in and adds nothing to the previous quoted posts, you're putting the boot in because the man is down and has said he's not returning to this thread.how very brave of you.

jmma, Feb 17, 2:24pm
Agreed, it's just out right stirring, typical of this poster.

fordkiwi27, Feb 17, 3:17pm
john go away

johnf_456, Feb 17, 3:21pm
I will not go away lastly don't name call.