400,000 cars on the roads without a WOF

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franc123, May 15, 4:27pm
No they are not and thats where the MTA's argument that they trot out every couple of years falls flat.

poppy62, May 15, 4:35pm
Actually gave the ute away it's now in the UAE. 2 of the 7 are honda and mazda. I'm honoured to know that you monitor my vehicles on here. BTW both Mercs are WOF & Regd.

curlcrown, May 15, 4:50pm
The headline is misleading. That many cars that are registered, do not have a current WOF. It does not mean that they are being used on the road, of course some of the are, but no where near all of them. Some will be in household garages on hold, some will be in workshops getting work done and as kaz said some are on car yards. Quite often 10% of my cars don’t have a WOF but they are by no means being used on the road without a WOF.

franc123, May 15, 5:04pm
Theres really nothing to see here, it comes across as just the MTA begging on behalf of their members for a cut of welfare money and lobbying for a return to the pre 2014 WoF testing intervals because of the loss of inspection income, income of which is in itself not that good if cars are passing straight through or repairs are not being conducted by garages.

curlcrown, May 15, 5:05pm
At the moment I only have 6 cars, two don't have a WOF, so that's one third of them, but one is in the shop getting WOF work done and one is rego on hold being unused for now.

socram, May 15, 6:04pm
Growing up, Dad was adamant that although I could have bought an old traded in Riley or Rover when I was 17, I couldn't afford to run one as insurance was compulsory.

Whilst cars without a WoF may not significantly contribute to the road toll directly due to their mechanical condition, I do wonder, that given the number of fatal accidents involving people with a criminal background, or otherwise committing some form of offence, that the general lack of respect for the law overall in NZ, is a far bigger worry.

Driving a vehicle having no WoF, may just be part of a greater problem.

apollo11, May 15, 6:25pm
Exactly. A minority, maybe five percent, will ignore the rules and hope for the best. They will be more likely to drive a badly maintained, unwarranted car, and they will drive it in a manner that is more likely to result in a crash. The rules and laws we bring in to try to tame this sort of behaviour results in more expense and hassle for everyone.

absolute_detail, May 15, 6:44pm
What is compulsory insurance going to achieve?

framtech, May 15, 6:47pm
The thing I find interesting is the number of cars on the road with defective headlights,
Are the owners of these cars failing to get a WOF because they don't care about the law and know they can get away with it, or are they just thick and can't tell all their lights is not working.

framtech, May 15, 6:50pm
it cleans up the road by pinging law breakers and basically if you can't afford insurance, you can't afford to own and use a car.

socram, May 15, 7:11pm
Which is exactly why I couldn't afford a car until I was on an adult wage at 21. That also meant by the time teenaged stupidity and bravado had evaporated, I could not only afford a car but also the insurance and was a fair bit more mature.

Maybe one of the several reasons the UK accident rate has always been better than ours, not to mention a moped at 15. motorbike at 16 and only at 17 could you get a car licence. Third party insurance was a legal minimum, but most opted for fully comprehensive.

Even in NZ, if you opt for third party insurance, if someone pings your pride and joy and can't pay, you are stuffed.

Equally, if you run into someone's brand new Mercedes, at least their repair bills are covered even if your car is a write off.

I don't feel that I should have to pay an increased premium and an excess, when some uninsured wally runs into my car.

apollo11, May 15, 7:11pm
They could give them a nasty fine, along with the fine for no rego, and no warrant.

socram, May 15, 7:18pm
. and they'll actually pay the fine? Dream on.

absolute_detail, May 15, 7:18pm
So would achieve absolutely nothing then

apollo11, May 15, 7:26pm
That was my point.

annie17111, May 15, 7:35pm
how many people do a quick walk around to make sure headlights, indicators, tyres etc are all good?

saxman99, May 15, 10:14pm
I regularly do these kinds of basic checks on our 4 vehicles, and I’m sure plenty of other “car guys” do too. Other people are probably not even aware what the requirements for lights and tyres are.

gunna-1, May 15, 11:03pm
The whole warrent thing became a joke when the rust requirements came in, the accident thing is the angry bite news agencies get to sell stories, it dosent surprise me there arnt many accidents or deaths if there are alot on the road with no wof, cars now have much better breaking systems than 40 50 years ago, and the sky wont fall, just people popping there clocks from high blood pressure watching the news when some "idiot" i hate that word dose have a crash without a wof, then people are ranting at the tv like there team lost a football game, when 5 million people are still alive and kicking.

marte, May 15, 11:33pm
Well theres 4,100,000 cars in NZ.
If just 10% were being driven at a time, that would be the 400,000 cars.
But 100% of them would have to have no WOF.

So, i guess thats plausible.

scuba, May 15, 11:57pm
just a quick google- I mean what you read on the net is always true right?

Uninsured motorists - There are over one million uninsured motorists on the UK’s road, which is a problem for many reasons, but also because they ramp up insurance costs for those who do pay - as the insurance industry still has to cover the cost of any injury or damage to a person or car in the event of an accident.

According to Confused.com, male drivers are edging closer to the £900 mark and are paying £878 on average for their car insurance - £114 more than female motorists who are paying £764 on average.

houseofdad, May 16, 8:25am
Well I have known you for years, I'm sure an intelligent man like you can work out who I am just quietly.

poppy62, May 16, 8:47am
Is that you John?

houseofdad, May 16, 9:16am
No but John is my middle name.

bumfacingdown, May 16, 10:17am
In the UK they now impound the car if there is no insurance, proof of insurance before you get it back

kiwijohn1000, May 16, 10:19am
Mall and supermarkets wont allow traffic wardens in there carparks as they consider it private property thankfully