Umm I will take my chances thanks, having been involved with insurance companies and their investigative procedures and practices, unless you told them, they wouldn't know. They would have to strip a vehicle and in the case of reflash or chip, actually have a specialist examine the ECU etc. If the crash is bad enough to put you in ICU I doubt the vehilces going to be driveable so yeah they wouldn't know. Granted the obvious rims and lowering or lifting any fool can see, but electronic mods, they wouldn't know
pico42,
Nov 13, 9:54am
And, if you had advised them of the change, they would have to demonstrate that the re-chipping made a material contribution to the incident.
mm12345,
Nov 13, 11:30am
Yup. When you take your turbo diesel to the franchise dealer for service, and part of that service involves flashing the ECU, do they get LVV certification for the "chipping" they just did? What's VW going to do when they "rechip" all the dodgy turbo diesels they sold in NZ. Get each car LVV certed? Is a "piggyback" system "re-chipping"? Actually, is flashing the ECU "rechipping". Rechipping might mean pulling the EPROM chip from the ECU and replacing it with a new (ie aftermarket) one - like they used to do in about nineteen ninety something. It's all BS at the moment - especially with regard to emissions. No way to test, no way to know, stupid laws with no way to enforce. May as well forgetaboutit, and import old Hummers, as there's no way they have data on what the f%^&$ is going on.
bigfatmat1,
Nov 13, 5:54pm
do you have a reference to the legislation for that?
pico42,
Nov 13, 8:01pm
No. It comes from a LVVTA technical document which will have some standing under law, but is not legislation per se.
2get1,
Nov 13, 8:35pm
If it isn't written in statute / legislation it isn't law then and isn't enforceable, thus means nothing really.
pico42,
Nov 13, 8:54pm
First half of your post is correct. After the word then, it is incorrect.
There are a multitude of code of practice, technical, reference and policy documents out there that are not law, but are relied upon in the application of law that does mean they are enforceable and does mean something.
2get1,
Nov 13, 9:19pm
If it's not legislation or law, then there is no prosecution, penalty, endorsement, fine etc provision as these are provided for in legislation. So In the Context to the subject matter of this thread, I would say chip your diesel and don't worry about it.
yeah they never know, how would they. None of the 3 vehicles I have done have ever been picked up at wof be it testing station or local garage. Its just not worth worrying about. Bigger fish for them to fry, like cut springs and all that sort of carry on the young boy racers do. Hell all my turbo diesels Ive also cut open the cat, gutted it and welded it back up again and that's never been noticed either. Nor would I expect it to be.
mad_signtist,
Nov 27, 9:39am
Well thought I would update this. I decided on an ecu remap for 895 at NZ performance tuning in Henderson. One word. Wow. The power is so smooth. Feels way more responsive. More usable power through the rev range. Will update on what economy is like. I definitely recommend it!
intrade,
Nov 27, 10:02am
you have to be carfull chip tuning adding extra torque to components not disigned by manufacturer. cowboy tuning is out there aecs.net warned about cowboys but could not name names for legal reasons i guess. You should do some research in to the credability of tuning and whom made the maps . a propper tuner has a battery supply ripple free charger for programming , if they dont have thet then they are 100% cowboys
bwg11,
Nov 27, 8:23pm
I'm not doubting the perceived power and torque increase, but would like to see actual dyno figures. Some "cowboy" chips (to use intrade's terminology) just manipulate the pedal travel to throttle position ratio of the "fly by wire" programming. Just like tuners of the sixties used to stretch throttle return springs to make a car feel more lively.
My car is "fly by wire" and it is very obvious that much more accelerator pedal travel is required to accelerate when the motor is cold. As the engine temperature come up throttle response reverts to normal. Obviously intended to protect a cold motor from excessive loads.
intrade,
Nov 27, 9:46pm
here are the problems of tuning even with a propper map. the dualmass flywheel will likely wear premature , my vw has had a new clutch fitted when i purchased it the guy told me the flywheel was not exchanged so i did know the flywheel will frizzle on me sooner or later , well its not even 5000 miles later it is now bashing and banging abouts more and more, so i cant drive it till i change it all again. Now i will change to the solid mass flywheel valeo make one with clutch this can only handle 400 newten meter and cost about a grand . the mext step up is 600nm clutch and flywheel and cost 2 grand plus to buy plus import taxes here after. So what to do i dont know the exact torque its producing do i risk the 400nm gets destroyed . hmmmmmm desitions desitions.
mrfxit,
Nov 27, 10:01pm
Because thats how they create "upgrades & the next version that has better performance"
Whats sold to the public is NOT the best performance/economical model version. It's dummied down to a base model then offer upgrades or keep the extra performance for the next years model
mrfxit,
Nov 27, 10:03pm
Congratulations, you now have no need to upgrade your vehicle to next years more powerful model
intrade,
Nov 27, 10:13pm
that is not always as simple as this for example a 1,9 pd tdi 115hp has not got the stron conrods as the 130 and 150 bhp model . i have the 130 bhp tuned and its got the same engine as the 150 the difference is a smaller intercooler only i made up for that by throwing the egr in the bin and put a straight pipe on there lol , before you could feel lack of power in higher rpm when the cooler got warm. i also improofed the airflow over the smaller cooler with a vent from a audi Q7 in wheel arch. its not just adding a tuning it has to be able to take it also.
mad_signtist,
Nov 28, 6:30am
They set it up so it would be good for towing. Easier on the clutch that the full power tune. It drives extremely well. Very happy with it
mad_signtist,
Nov 28, 6:33am
NZperformancetuning did the work. They have heaps of good reviews and feedback.
intrade,
Nov 28, 11:12pm
so mad_signtist did they explain to you the things or just glorify there work as in magic trick? because your dualmass flywheel will be nuked i just ordered a new solid mass on friday from darkside development 400nm hope my tuning is not more agressive then 400nm or i be rooting that setup also. Dont want to be rude or rubbish your tuner but fancy website and good reviews can all be typed in and loaded by some office girl with website skills.
intrade,
Nov 28, 11:23pm
here is what you can do a good tuning map will reduce power output when cold and only give you full power on a hot engine . so when its sortof warm outside like now you could floor it cold and see if it produces massive power on a cold engine. this would be a bad sign and you should not do this normally but that is the only way to find out if you have a save tune as they told you.
tweake,
Aug 27, 2:00am
the advantage of mapping over an external chip is they can tune the egr system and control injection timing. the bulk of the external chips only adjust fuel.
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