Claim PPI cost from dealers if car fails

billyfieldman, Sep 7, 10:52am
Do you think it is fair to put as a condition that if a car fails PPI, then the dealer should bear the cost of the PPI?

That would discourage dealers from trying to sell vehicles with non-obvious issues that only show up in a PPI.
martin11, Sep 7, 11:14am
You would have to give them a chance to fix any problems found first .
gazzat22, Sep 7, 11:16am
Well a lot of Dealers seem to state on their for sale ad Passed AA inspection so it would pay to ask for a copy of the AA report.
kazbanz, Sep 7, 11:45am
A PPI is for YOUR benefit. there is not pass/fail there are a list of issues or potential ongoing maintainence the inspector brings to your attention.
why would a seller pay for something that benifits them in no way?
kazbanz, Sep 7, 11:46am
The AA "inspection" is an appraisal. It NEVER shows faults.
The only way to be sure is to get a full indepth PP inspection carried out.
mrfxit, Sep 7, 2:19pm
Unless of course it's got some pretty nasty undeclared faults on what should have been a "good" vehicle.
Why should the dealer benefit from a customers failed PPI with faults recorded that should have shown up on even a basic dealer trade in inspection.
kazbanz, Sep 7, 2:30pm
I can't see how the dealer would benefit from a failed inspection.
budgel, Sep 7, 2:52pm
Particularly since as you said in post #5, there is no pass/fail.
saxman99, Sep 7, 4:14pm
Well, if not a direct benefit, it seems to me a reputable dealer might take the comments on board and rectify said faults so that they can then sell a decent car to a happy customer who tells his mates that he got a good car from Dealer X who then might get a 'word of mouth' sale out of it.
mrfxit, Sep 7, 5:12pm
Yep thats it,
kazbanz, Sep 7, 6:19pm
Depends on the nature of the "faults' or faults. and the price/age of the car concerned.
curlcrown, Sep 7, 6:35pm
In such a case do you think it would be fair for the dealer to chose who does the PPI?
billyfieldman, Sep 7, 6:39pm
What if when asked whether there are any problems with the car, the dealer had said "No. It's in tidy condition."

And after paying $165 for a PPI, turns out the car has worn brake pads, split cv boots, slow leaking water pump, small transmission oil leak. If the dealer had been honest, you would have gone to the next car and not waste $165 for a PPI.

Even after the dealer "fixed" any faults, wouldn't you still have to bring it to an independent mechanic to verify that the faults are fixed and "fixing" didn't caused new problems?

So the buyer in this case would be footing the bill for two PPI because the dealer either was dishonest about the condition of the car or did not bother to inspect the car before selling.
snoopy221, Sep 7, 6:56pm
Caveat Emptor

! the principle that the buyer alone is responsible for checking the quality and suitability of goods before a purchase is made. !

Simply explains Both Post#1 ! non-obvious issues that only show up in a PPI.!
And post# 15 ! What if when asked whether there are any problems with the car, the dealer had said "No. It's in tidy condition."

And after paying $165 for a PPI, turns out the car has worn brake pads, split cv boots, slow leaking water pump, small transmission oil leak.!

Which is WHY people that can't spot a split cv boot PAY someone that CAN.
mrfxit, Sep 7, 9:07pm
Obviously, spending cash on parts that won't increase it's value or speed of sale, simply isn't worth it, butt he dealer could have been alerted to something that would be worthwhile doing next time it's on sale.
comsolve, Sep 7, 9:58pm
You are being kind. I don't trust AA inspections or what the hell they call them.
comsolve, Sep 7, 10:00pm
How about some context? Like price of car and mileage. Because what you describe sounds like a trade in.
oliver6, Sep 7, 10:06pm
Seems the purchaser wants a car in " as new " condition.
They should buy new rather than trying to squeeze the dealer.
2sheddies, Oct 1, 3:03pm
Sounds like the type of buyer who goes around expecting a $20k minter for $1995. I can't imagine a fresh, low k import at a respectable dealer having so many faults, and if it were a cheap, decades old near end of life vehicle, well you get what you pay for and you have to expect it won't be perfect. There may well be faults that the dealer/ seller is unaware of. They're not trying to mislead you on purpose. As said above it's up to the buyer to satisfy themselves of the condition prior to purchase, and that involves paying for a PPI end of.