LOL, I think we may be on the same page mate.A 30 meter gap has to be an open invitation for someone else to pull in front of you (we are talking about the average Kiwi driver here!). I suspect your 64 meter total (relative road position) is far too generous, but even taking that into account I can??
johnf_456,
Dec 26, 3:06pm
A very amusing thread I must say with the usual comments.
sr2,
Dec 26, 3:15pm
Thank you for sharing that thought with us Mr Fletcher!
johnf_456,
Dec 26, 3:31pm
Thanks but thats not my name so don't call me tha.
It would be interesting to see accidents as a whole to see if they have dropped, has cars are a lot safer from what they use to be so death has a much slimmer chance.
tonyrockyhorror,
Dec 26, 3:53pm
That would require near perfect timing though because you don't get that many stretches of single-lane 100km/h road with 500m visibility. Assuming it takes 3 seconds to accelerate to the 100km/h from 95km/h, if you started with 36m you'd be 2.1m closer to the other vehicle by the time you hit 100km/h!
romulan7,
Dec 26, 3:56pm
Your obsessed with this arguement!As flitt pointed out your missing the point.
One the points your missing out on is that during the Holiday Period there is a lot of people on the road in holiday mode who are relaxing and also not used to more than the short 9-5 commutes they do!They undertake long journeys and yes make mistakes!Making them aware of the speed they are doing makes them focus more on the road and less likely to drift over that centreline.Obviously it will not be a 100% cure for people dieing on the roads.
I wonder if you would be so stressed about going a kilometre over the limit or trying to get the speedlimit spot on to the nearest km if you were driving in Miles Per Hour! Set your GPS to miles per hour see if that helps with keeping the revenue collectors at bay!Might surprise you at 60mph on the open road.
sr2,
Dec 26, 5:05pm
I usually give it a bit of the old "jandal" when overtaking; the less time spent on the wrong side of the road the better. Next rally I'm on I'll try and get some real world distances from the Terratrip during a touring stage, we tend to keep to the speed limit as the time penalties for a speeding infringement make your eyes water!
romulan7,
Dec 26, 6:10pm
People simply do not use their nut when overtaking!Overtaking the wrong places is the biggest problem not the speed they have to "boost"to complete the pass.And thats not talking about double yellow or single yellow lines thats simply overtaking in location where there is not enough forward view and not consideringthe hazzards! Of course if they get caught speeding while overtaking well thats pretty clear they missed a hazzard!
tonyrockyhorror,
Dec 26, 9:05pm
No, it doesn't mean that at all.
scotty20001,
Dec 26, 11:22pm
+1000!
romulan7,
Dec 26, 11:44pm
Re read to the context of the original reply.
It does because if you get caught speeding while overtaking you obviously missed the hazzard ahead of the cop with a speed gun.
Theres a clip on youtube of a cop car laying in wait on hatched markings on s lip road on the Auckland Motorway!On a hill even and was visible quite a distance back, yet some plank still did not see the car and ease off the hot pedal.
Same goes for your single carriegeway overtaking !You should look for the hazzards before oiveratking many fail on that and the cop car laying in wait is one those hazzards.
I saw that today cop car side of the road easy enough for me to spot but not the guy in front of me who decided to boost passed the vehicle in front of him.You can guess the outcome!
tonyrockyhorror,
Dec 27, 2:12am
I guarantee you 100% it'll be to do with someone being on part of the road that, under the circumstances, they should not have been.
flitt,
Dec 27, 3:18am
So, what is likely to have led up to being on 'part of the road [that] they should not have been'!
tonyrockyhorror,
Dec 27, 3:26am
Poor driving ability, as always.
flitt,
Dec 27, 3:45am
I've just pointed out how it IS in use of the term.
So they just randomly swerved onto the part of the road that they should not have been on. Is that it! Or, perhaps they might have been driving at a speed not matching their poor driving ability(!)
cowboy110,
Dec 27, 4:11am
And to carry on from romulan7's comment about the Desert Road crash, we were one of the THOUSANDS of cars that were diverted around the back of the mountain because of the crash.To be honest it's lucky the road toll isn't higher tonight afterwitnessing some idiotic overtaking on that back road.Yes we were down to 80 k's,and nobody was going any where in a hurry except for the few f#@ktards who were trying to pick cars off one at a time and then trying to muscle their way into non existant gaps in the traffic.Just a shame the cops were busy with the fatal crash cos I would have been quite happy for those pricks to get pinged.
master-trader,
Dec 27, 4:17am
I've always thought the back of the mountain way was quicker anyway. Especially when coming up from Wellington. From Wanganui to Ratehi and National Park, Taumaranui etc
cowboy110,
Dec 27, 4:23am
Usually it is.but not today.
sr2,
Dec 27, 4:45am
Worse than that, the vast majority of people killed on NZ roads were breast fed as babies, the Police should do something about it!
Can't be a huge deal to you with all that power your Commodore provides.
romulan7,
Dec 27, 11:30am
Depends on your perspective I call Desert Road the back way!You would have loved SH4 yesterday afternoon it was solid with traffic, worse than a busy day during the ski season.
wrong2,
Dec 27, 12:51pm
not really. romulan is just trying to mock those who get speeding tickets
& its a major backwards part of road enforcement :
people who go faster than 110 when overtaking on single lane highways are safer than those who dont, yet can be prosecuted for putting the oncoming public in less danger
the heavy enforcement of speed is reducing the publics willingness to overtake & is helping to create longer lines of traffic (but then again, so is the cost of fuel)
wrong2,
Dec 27, 12:53pm
wallet hazard, rather than "can cause a crash" hazard
cowboy110,
Dec 27, 12:56pm
I'll re-post the message that I put up last night minus what I assume are the the 2 words that TM found offensive. "And to carry on from romulan7's comment about the Desert Road crash, we were one of the THOUSANDS of cars that were diverted around the back of the mountain because of the crash. To be honest it's lucky the road toll isn't higher tonight after witnessing some idiotic overtaking on that back road. Yes we were down to 80 k's, and nobody was going any where in a hurry except for the few (idiots) who were trying to pick cars off one at a time and then trying to muscle their way into non existant gaps in the traffic. Just a shame the cops were busy with the fatal crash cos I would have been quite happy for those (chaps) to get pinged."
wrong2,
Dec 27, 1:06pm
they shouldnt have to "muscle" their way in
people should be leaving gaps to the car ahead so overtaking can be done
people should only be following close if they are looking for an overtaking opportunity
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