Speak out before Police Stupidity costs more lives

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wrong2, Oct 1, 10:35pm
i think that sums up the brainwashing quite nicely

after 14 years of TV speed ad propaganda we have many among us who are convinced speed = automatic danger
gedo1, Oct 1, 10:41pm
Hey. Remember the old saying!"Whatever you do, don't let the facts get in the way of a real story".Whether you agree with the arbitrary speed limits they are the law at the moment.If you believe you can make a difference then lobby for change.While the initial poster has surrounded his message with emotional blindness - and I feel for him if it was one if his own that passed - he is still saying what I just wrote.lobby for change
gedo1, Oct 1, 10:46pm
.I am sure that the original poster will also be agitating properly for change in hospitals so that the incident does not occur again.so that a doctor will not feel the need to speed.so that a police officer will not be obliged to stop a speeder. so that in a similar incident the driver will not have to wait for his story to be checked.that we all will be open and honest when stopped by police for speeding or whatever. so that whenever a story is given it will be true and thus the genuine cases will be automatically believed.Tell us it's true you will be doing that agitating Jazz, please!Please!
kazbanz, Oct 1, 10:46pm
NO its not that -Its a simple case ofsomeone broke the law and the person who is given the job of enforcing that law DOING THE JOB THEY ARE PAID TO DO.
the rightness of the law, It being sensible or not is academic. The point is that it is the law and untill/unless it's changed then the doctor was breaking it.
weaver2010, Oct 1, 10:49pm
So hooming along with a disregard to the rules at 1am on a saturday morning is ok then!Please remember that when your car is stolen in the middle of the night or on your way back from a late night drinking binge and the Police ignore your vehicle!But if they do stop it then its ok to claim to be a doctor on your way to an emergency.

Yes thats brainwashing alright that the Cop did what was expected of him in the detection of crime and making sure that either the road is safe and your property stays yours!
wrong2, Oct 1, 10:53pm
dont really care

i quoted a person & my point is about exactly that

118 km/h on the southern motorway isnt dangerous
wrong2, Oct 1, 10:56pm
i fail to understand how you can miss the point so badly

118 km/h is faster than our speed limit - but its as dangerous as90 km/h

^ if you drive with your brain on autopilot that is ^

which is the only way you can crash at such a slow speed
kazbanz, Oct 1, 10:57pm
DIDthe person you quoted say anything about danger!
the point made was that the DOCTOR was breaking the law and the cop was doing his job. Had the doc driven at 100 or even dare I say up to about 108 km/h the cop wouldn't have pulled him over
shelleigh, Oct 1, 11:01pm
Exactly Kazbanz. It never ceases to amaze me how many people refuse to get that.
wrong2, Oct 1, 11:04pm
equally like how the emphasis on speed enforcement isnt about road safety
thejazzpianoma, Oct 1, 11:06pm
Absolutely, we definitely have more than one major problem and more than one contributing factor in this example. However its a case of one problem at a time and lobbying for fixing our health system is not something one should be doing on a motoring messageboard.

Also. what so many are not grasping is fixing the health system would have only assisted in this exact scenario and does not solve the Police problems.

Fixing the healthcare system certainly wouldn't have made Police respond to a potential kidnapping instead ofdropping a Santa Clause off to a PR event which is something I witnessed last year. Yet ensuring officers are prioritizing things correctly and using common sense would have assisted in both scenarios.

There are any number of emergency situations that are "one off" where we need Police using common sense and appropriate priorities to make sure lives are not lost.

I still fail to understand this incredible reluctance to get things fixed up for the benefit of us all. Do we not want lives and property to be saved anymore!
gunhand, Oct 1, 11:12pm
Actually almost 130kph is more dangerous than 90kph and if you dont understand this i think you need to remove yourself from our highways.
An extra 30kph may not seem much to you but when it goes wrong for any number of reasons its way faster. But i guess you having reactions of a F1 driver, Group A rally driver and Moto GP rider skills you will be just fine.
However the rest of us meer mortals may not be as quick to rectifiy the situation at 130kph.
wrong2, Oct 1, 11:16pm
130 starts requiring more direct steering wheel inputs - but its relative
thats the thing - barring a mechanical fault - its doesnt "go wrong"

roads dont move - & they dont jump out & surprise people

you dont need any track experience at all to drive at 130
thejazzpianoma, Oct 1, 11:17pm
What you are saying here is that its O.K to prevent someone from saving a life because that person happens to be committing a minor traffic infringement.

It dosn't matter in the least if the doctor has been speeding, wanted for fraud, or an escaped convict. If they are the only person in a position to save a life you let them carry on and try to save that life and sort the rest of it out later.

It also means absolutely nothing what so ever that the patient may not have actually died from the delay. The point is they COULD have died from the delay just because they might have got away with it this time dosn't matter.

Its crazy that people can apply this same logic to speeders who "might" have an accident so must be punished yet can't understand this person "might" have died from the delay. The difference being the chances of death from delaying the doctor far outweigh the tiny chance of death from exceeding the speed limit by 18km/h.

This is not rocket science people its pure math, statistics and logic.
wrong2, Oct 1, 11:19pm
ok so you really are annoyed with it - but how was the cop to know !

at least in chasing the guy down initially - he couldnt have
gunhand, Oct 1, 11:20pm
Tell that to the 400 or so killed each year on our roads (nothing went wrong). And your dead right, any muppet can drive at 130kph.
thejazzpianoma, Oct 1, 11:22pm
It was absolutely fine that the Cop stopped the Doctor that was the correct thing to do.

What he did wrong was when the doctor said he was a Doctor and heading to the Hospital for an emergency he held him up.

He should have taken him at his word for the moment and followed or led him to the hospital. He could have even quickly grabbed his license so he could follow up later.
wrong2, Oct 1, 11:22pm
i hope your not blaming the environment for causing human errors here

any muppet can keepcar on the highway at 130 safely , without killing anyone - because its not murdeously dangerous
net_oz, Oct 1, 11:24pm
I definately think you been smokin too much dak mate to come up with your sense of logic. Just like the doctor COULD have had an accident at 118kph. He didn't so let it go.
wrong2, Oct 1, 11:26pm
fair point - but if no guidlines exist then hes risking trouble with his bosses

the pregnant woman charade had just happened a few weeks before
weaver2010, Oct 1, 11:26pm
I think I did miss your point but my point rellated to the incident and what the doctor was doing to attract the police attention.
gunhand, Oct 1, 11:27pm
Um, no havent mentioned enviroment. But Im sure at times it has contributed to a crash or two which would then mean the driver wasnt up to the task or paying attention.
weaver2010, Oct 1, 11:29pm
Another well said obvious post and just to throw petroleum on the burning at the stake.The cops speedometer was probably reading higher than the actual speed he was travelling.
shelleigh, Oct 1, 11:30pm
Jazz I do NOT appreciate you saying that at all when that is NOT what I am saying!
What I am saying is the doctor was speeding and the cop was doing his job stopping him, checking his ID and making sure he wasn't driving under the influence of alcohol.
The only thing that is stupid is the doctor's vehicle not having some kind of light/signage identifiying it as belonging to an emergency worker!
weaver2010, Oct 1, 11:30pm
Talk about miss the full picture

1am Saturday morning higher than normal speed!Did you miss what I pointed out about potential Drink Driver or Stolen Vehicle!